Re: Microsoft, TCPA, your wallet and the real ending of the story.
On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 03:17:22PM -0400, Sunder wrote: | Indeed. | | If it's coming from Redmond, and as usual if it smells of evil, there is | an utterly simple solution in dealing with it: don't buy it. Don't buy | Microsoft software, don't buy motherboards that include TCPA capabilities. | When you're up for getting yourself a new PC, get a generic one without | such options, or if you insist, call the vendor and tell them you want a | box without evil-inside and without a Redmond OS pre-installed. Which CPU vendor will sell me a CPU without TCPA? And besides, I WANT a TCPA machine. I just don't want remote attestation, or keys that I can't back-up and relocate. | Buy a generic intel/amd machine without the "Secure" processor, or give | Steve Jobs some of your cash for a nice G4/G5 machine, or you can go to a IBM is starting to add TCPA to the powerpc line. And much as I enjoy my Mac, the DVD player still has this bug where fast-forward doesn't work sometimes. Really annoying when you need to yank a DVD for cleaning, and watch the previews 3 or 4 times. http://www-3.ibm.com/chips/products/powerpc/newsletter/mar2003/ppc_process_a... Sparc may be an option if Sun stays in business, but again, I want a TCPA chip that I can control. Adam -- "It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once." -Hume
Right now, Intel, AMD, Transmeta, IBM+Motorola (PowerPC), Sun+Fuji+Tatung (UltraSPARC + clones), whomever is left making MIPS Rx000 chip based machines after SGI (Is sgi still making Irix boxes?) and so on. If you want TCPA, by all means, go have fun buying a motherboard with it and run whatever OS meets your needs, and if none do, feel free to write your own extensions for Linux, *BSD, etc. ----------------------Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--------------------------- + ^ + :25Kliters anthrax, 38K liters botulinum toxin, 500 tons of /|\ \|/ :sarin, mustard and VX gas, mobile bio-weapons labs, nukular /\|/\ <--*-->:weapons.. Reasons for war on Iraq - GWB 2003-01-28 speech. \/|\/ /|\ :Found to date: 0. Cost of war: $800,000,000,000 USD. \|/ + v + : The look on Sadam's face - priceless! --------_sunder_@_sunder_._net_------- http://www.sunder.net ------------ On Sat, 14 Jun 2003, Adam Shostack wrote:
Which CPU vendor will sell me a CPU without TCPA?
And besides, I WANT a TCPA machine. I just don't want remote attestation, or keys that I can't back-up and relocate.
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