Yahoo, Verizon: Our Spy Capabilities Would ‘Shock’, ‘Confuse’ Consumers
Shocked and awed, no doubt. http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/12/wiretap-prices/ Yahoo, Verizon: Our Spy Capabilities Would bShockb, bConfuseb Consumers * By Kim Zetter Email Author * December 1, 2009 | * 3:30 pm | * Categories: Cover-Ups, Surveillance, privacy Want to know how much phone companies and internet service providers charge to funnel your private communications or records to U.S. law enforcement and spy agencies? Thatbs the question muckraker and Indiana University graduate student Christopher Soghoian asked all agencies within the Department of Justice, under a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request filed a few months ago. But before the agencies could provide the data, Verizon and Yahoo intervened and filed an objection on grounds that, among other things, they would be ridiculed and publicly shamed were their surveillance price sheets made public. Yahoo writes in its 12-page objection letter (.pdf), that if its pricing information were disclosed to Soghoian, he would use it b to bshameb Yahoo! and other companies b and to bshockb their customers.b b Therefore, release of Yahoo!bs information is reasonably likely to lead to impairment of its reputation for protection of user privacy and security, which is a competitive disadvantage for technology companies,b the company writes. Verizon took a different stance. It objected to the release (.pdf) of its Law Enforcement Legal Compliance Guide because it might b confuseb customers and lead them to think that records and surveillance capabilities available only to law enforcement would be available to them as well b resulting in a flood of customer calls to the company asking for trap and trace orders. b Customers may see a listing of records, information or assistance that is available only to law enforcement,b Verizon writes in its letter, b but call in to Verizon and seek those same services. Such calls would stretch limited resources, especially those that are reserved only for law enforcement emergencies.b Other customers, upon seeing the types of surveillance law enforcement can do, might b become unnecessarily afraid that their lines have been tapped or call Verizon to ask if their lines are tapped (a question we cannot answer).b Verizon does disclose a little tidbit in its letter, saying that the company receives b tens of thousandsb of requests annually for customer records and information from law enforcement agencies. Soghoian filed his records request to discover how much law enforcement agencies b and thus U.S. taxpayers b are paying for spy documents and surveillance services with the aim of trying to deduce from this how often such requests are being made. Soghoian explained his theory on his blog, Slight Paranoia: In the summer of 2009, I decided to try and follow the money trail in order to determine how often Internet firms were disclosing their customersb private information to the government. I theorized that if I could obtain the price lists of each ISP, detailing the price for each kind of service, and invoices paid by the various parts of the Federal government, then I might be able to reverse engineer some approximate statistics. In order to obtain these documents, I filed Freedom of Information Act requests with every part of the Department of Justice that I could think of. The first DoJ agency to respond to his request was the U.S. Marshals Service (USMS), which indicated that it had price lists available for Cox Communications, Comcast, Yahoo and Verizon. But because the companies voluntarily provided the price lists to the government, the FOIA allows the companies an opportunity to object to the disclosure of their data under various exemptions. Comcast and Cox were fine with the disclosure, Soghoian reported. He found that Cox Communications charges $2,500 to fulfill a pen register/trap-and-trace order for 60 days, and $2,000 for each additional 60-day-interval. It charges $3,500 for the first 30 days of a wiretap, and $2,500 for each additional 30 days. Thirty days worth of a customerbs call detail records costs $40. Comcastbs pricing list, which was already leaked to the internet in 2007, indicated that it charges at least $1,000 for the first month of a wiretap, and $750 per month thereafter. But Verizon and Yahoo took offense at the request. Yahoo objected on grounds that its pricing constituted b confidential commercial informationb and cited Exemption 4 of the Freedom of Information Act and the Trade Secrets Act. Exemption 4 of the FOIA refers to the disclosure of commercial or financial information that could result in a competitive disadvantage to the company if it were publicly disclosed. The company claims its pricing is derived from labor rates for employees and overhead and, therefore, disclosing the information would provide clues to its operating costs b regardless of whether these same clues are already available in public records, such as those the company files with the Securities and Exchange Commission. The company also claims that since Soghoian is trying to determine the actual amounts the Marshals Service paid Yahoo for responding to requests, the price lists are irrelevant, since b there are no standard prices for these transactions.b But equally important to Yahoobs objections was the potential for b criticismb and ridicule. Yahoo quoted Soghoian on his blog writing that his aim was to b use this blog to shame the corporations that continue to do harm to user online privacy.b Yahoo also objected to the disclosure of its letter objecting to the disclosure of pricing information saying that b release of this letter would likely cause substantial competitive harmb to the company. The company added, in a veiled threat, that if the Marshals Service were to show anyone its letter objecting to the disclosure of pricing information, it could b impair the governmentbs ability to obtain information necessary for making appropriate decisions with regard to future FOIA requests.b If anyone out there has a copy of Verizon or Yahoobs law enforcement pricing list and wants to share it, feel free to use our anonymous tip address. Image: FBI.gov
On 01/02/10 13:27, John Young wrote:
From: S W BELL <jimdbell@q.com> To: <cryptome@earthlink.net> Subject: C-13, O-17 Responsible for all (?) CO2 Greenhouse effect Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 06:00:01 +0000
My name is James Dalton Bell. (MIT BS Chemistry, 1980). In late June 2009 I concluded that only the portion of the molecules of CO2 containing either a carbon-13 atom (1.1% of carbon in nature) or an oxygen-17 atom (0.038% of oxygen in nature) is responsible for most or all of the 'greenhouse effect' commonly attributed to CO2.
In late July 2009 I wrote letters to Al Gore, 40 foreign embassies in Washington DC, and about 30 Congressional committees and government agencies (NIST; DOE) describing this. I stated that it would be relatively easy to remove the C-13 from natural gas and coal (via Fischer-Tropsch reaction, etc), and possibly from petroleum as well. In addition, oxygen could be distilled to remove most O-17 isotope in fixed applications (power plants).
In December 2009 I wrote two certified letters (each) to Al Gore and Obama. So far, none of my letters have been answered.
You can imagine the implications of this discovery. The problem, to the extent it may exist, is easily solved.
Please help me confirm and publicize this news. Thank you.
Dear John, Please say hello to Mr. Bell. And advise him, that the whole "greenhouse gas" thing is a farce to rob the world population of any remaining rights and to usher in World Government. "They" have stolen all the gold, they have monetized every baby, "they" have centralized ownership of all stocks in CEDE & CO, "they" run a corporation "UNITED STATES" the foreign occupation power in Washington, D.C., and "they" are in the middle of a world financial war... .... and it is a waste of time sending them any letters regarding gas emissions... chuckle. 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Jim has written voluminously on his inventions, and reportedly sent copies to a slew of parties at gov, com, edu and others. The feds severely limited Jim's contact with outsiders so who knows what got past the censors, in its original form, as entrapment, or at all. The stuff on greenhouse vaporware is one of a bunch of other apps. It would seem Jim is building a foundation for being a constructive member of society, not Associated Press. No benefit to speaking about cutting edge jailhouse encoding and obfuscation, nor subdermal RFID.
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