Link: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/01/15/1424207 Posted by: CowboyNeal, on 2005-01-15 15:03:00 from the calling-it-quits dept. [1]wikinerd writes "FBI has [2]retired the controversial Carnivore software, strongly criticized by privacy advocates for its email capturing abilities. However, it is believed that unspecified commercial surveillance tools are employed now. What does that mean for Internet users' privacy?" [3]Click Here References 1. http://portal.wikinerds.org/ 2. http://www.securityfocus.com/news/10307 3. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5671&alloc_id=12342&site_id=1&request_id=5016758&o p=click&page=%2farticle%2epl ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07078, 11.61144 http://www.leitl.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE http://moleculardevices.org http://nanomachines.net [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature]
At 12:31 AM +0100 1/16/05, Eugen Leitl wrote:
it is believed that unspecified commercial surveillance tools are employed now.
It was always AGGroup's Skyline package to begin with. The FBI is like NASA. They never build anything, and take all the credit. Cheers, RAH ------ -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah@ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'
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At 12:31 AM +0100 1/16/05, Eugen Leitl wrote:
it is believed that unspecified commercial surveillance tools are employed now.
It was always AGGroup's Skyline package to begin with.
The FBI is like NASA. They never build anything, and take all the credit.
At least we now know that the capabilities of the FBI in this regard are at least equivalent to that which a good Linux admin can deploy when he has control of your upstream link. The FBI cannot argue in court that their network eavesdropping capabilities require secrecy and non-disclosure. Sure they can pretend that the userland tools are super high-tech, but the analysis and inteception of arbitrary network traffic is not rocket science. Regards, Steve ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
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