You do a disservice to crypto and our group by implying, even in a backhanded way, that Bell's "AP" system was or is in any way feasible. Where's the true untraceable cash needed? Please explain. --Tim May After the 'soft drilling' section of AP it becomes an exercise in mass civil disobedience(led by a charismatic community leader?)Also trust, in that untracable digital cash is not strictly needed.Merely enough trustworthy netizens to promise to send their pledge to the 'predictor'who remains anonymous. eg.60 million netizens pledge 1$ each on a newswire somewhere that doesnt keep logs.I actually got a pledge of 1$ to wax rich armitage like a candle,Its a lot of fun.Theres still a lot of free range banks out there.
"mattd" wrote:
...Also trust, in that untracable digital cash is not strictly needed.Merely enough trustworthy netizens to promise to send their pledge to the 'predictor'who remains anonymous.
eg.60 million netizens pledge 1$ each on a newswire somewhere that doesnt keep logs. I actually got a pledge of 1$ to wax rich armitage like a candle,Its a lot of fun.
So, the pledges pour in. Now the intended target figures, hell, I'll just predict my OWN death, fake it and anonymously collect those pledges. Then I'll use whatever portion of the $60 million I actually receive to buy better security. Rinse and repeat. Do you really think folks are going to play the game again with Joe Target after he is resurrected? Especially if he tells everyone exactly what he did and promises to do it again if another price is put on his head? Please folks, that took me all of 30 seconds to figure out. Do some analysis before you spout off about AP. IT WON'T WORK. Please make a note of it.
Theres still a lot of free range banks out there.
Is "free range bank" supposed to convey some sort of meaning? a) Define "free range bank." b) Give three examples. (There are "a lot" of them "out there," right?) S a n d y
On Tue, 9 Oct 2001, Sandy Sandfort wrote:
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Please folks, that took me all of 30 seconds to figure out. Do some analysis before you spout off about AP. IT WON'T WORK. Please make a note of it.
Sandy, you are responding to the same poster who has made such illuminating contributions to this list as the posts titled "aimee's anal urges" and "running out of tim.." Please don't encourage him. Cypherpunks has always had its share of kooks. "Mathew Taylor's" writing style is more obscure than John Young's or Aimee Farr's, and his posts are as confused or content-less as Jim Choate's or Karsten Self's. He is better off simply ignored. Selected quotes: "cryptoanarchy aka cryptocapitalism seems to be in crisis." "My name is jim bell,no MY name is jim bell...AAAAAAAAArrrgh! Im screwed." "Cant you be obsessed with JB and Cryptoanarchy/freenet?" "War of the flea now must become war of the killer bee." "Bin laden? Id buy that for a dollar!" "Dear tim,no real anarchist craps on like you about a 'fruit ot the poison tree'constitution.FUCK uncle sams racist con job." "Assasination politics has as much claim for consideration as any other." "Sustained AP at shrub when executive order on assasins is revoked.?" "Hell,tim might rope some of his paintball buddies along for the ride." "Assasination politics was originally proposed for saddam,wasnt it?" "I pledge 1$ for the closest prediction of the permanent retirement from politics of the honourable osama bin laden." "Are you sure its too late for operation soft drill?" "C/punks with spunk get an offshore AP website up and softdrill any ugly mother that raises its ugly head." "Encrypt the reward as described in 'assasination politics'" "It should be our duty to remind them they may be the ones who are clipped." (On second thought, after reading this collection of quotes, I wouldn't be surprised if "mattd" AKA "Matt Taylor" were actually Agent Jeff Gordon. They certainly share the same obsession. When was Gordon's last psych eval?) -MW-
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