My fellow Cypherpunks, Guan Sin Ong's archieve : http://www.inet-one.com/cypherpunks has been down since Sun. 9/08/2002 . Anyone know what's going on? Respond to my email address as well since I monitor Cypherpunks thru Ong's archieve. Yours Truly, Gary Jeffers BEAT STATE!!!! see http://www.WHATREALLYHAPPENED.com to find out how the world really runs.