Hmm... I thought that was the point. When I read the F-117A message, I thought the poster was trying to point out that a "whistleblower"-type newsgroup could be abused by people trying to leak classified information (not that that should be news to anyone). I didn't take the information in it any more seriously than I took DeadBeat's request that I send him my e-mail address through anon.penet.fi, so he could describe a security hole there. Am I the only one who got that impression? Joe