The list has been under 'attack' for a while. There are multiple parties and they don't seem to be working in concert. I base this on the observation, for example, that during the recent group diatribe over 'filter this ...' at one point I received a mass of removal notices from a bunch of spam lists. I'd guesstimate a couple dozen over a two day period (or so). Secondly, that when this happened the total amount of spam dropped considerably (based on intentional eye count of sniffer logs). Then over the last several weeks it has ramped back up to new levels (roughtly 2x the past peak total to date). This is of course on the unfiltered backbone and straight feeds like SSZ. Thirdly, I operate several other lists and by comparing (again roughly) the amount of bounces they get (because the spam source isn't subscribed) plus the total that get through should (my axiom) be about equal to what come into cypherpunks; wich is a harlet of a mailing list. They ain't close. On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, Anonymous User wrote:
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On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 07:30:31PM -0500, Jim Choate wrote:
Secondly, that when this happened the total amount of spam dropped considerably (based on intentional eye count of sniffer logs). Then over the last several weeks it has ramped back up to new levels (roughtly 2x the past peak total to date). This is of course on the unfiltered backbone and straight feeds like SSZ.
speaking of unfiltered - I subscribed to ssz exactly because I don't want to have anyone moderating for me. however, the spam volume is deafening. is there a fee available that is filtered, but only for spam? -- New GPG Key issued (old key expired): http://web.lemuria.org/pubkey.html pub 1024D/2D7A04F5 2002-05-16 Tom Vogt <tom@lemuria.org> Key fingerprint = C731 64D1 4BCF 4C20 48A4 29B2 BF01 9FA1 2D7A 04F5
On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 07:58:49AM +0200, Tom wrote:
speaking of unfiltered - I subscribed to ssz exactly because I don't want to have anyone moderating for me. however, the spam volume is deafening.
is there a fee available that is filtered, but only for spam?
cypherpunks-moderated@minder.net is quite close to that. The moderation policy is: - obvious spam gets dropped. - one-line pointers to news articles will tend to get dropped. - news articles posted in full without comment will tend to get dropped. - content will tend to get passed, even if it's off-the-wall (eg. Xenix Chainsaw Massacre). - submissions from high signal posters will tend to get passed. - the list is read-only. submissions should go to cypherpunks@minder.net or another CDR node. - cypherpunks@minder.net will remain unfiltered and unmoderated. To subscribe, send the text "subscribe cypherpunks-moderated" to majordomo@minder.net. it's archived here: http://www.mail-archive.com/cypherpunks-moderated@minder.net/ Adam
On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 07:58:49AM +0200, Tom wrote:
speaking of unfiltered - I subscribed to ssz exactly because I don't want to have anyone moderating for me. however, the spam volume is deafening.
The LNE node isn't moderated. All posts from list subscribers, to any CDR, plus any post from a non-subscriber that isn't spam, get sent to LNE subscribers.
is there a fee available that is filtered, but only for spam?
LNE qualifies. Eric
On Wednesday, June 12, 2002, at 09:41 AM, Eric Murray wrote:
On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 07:58:49AM +0200, Tom wrote:
speaking of unfiltered - I subscribed to ssz exactly because I don't want to have anyone moderating for me. however, the spam volume is deafening.
The LNE node isn't moderated. All posts from list subscribers, to any CDR, plus any post from a non-subscriber that isn't spam, get sent to LNE subscribers.
I like the LNE node, but a lot of junk still seems to get through. If Eric is only passing through the posts of subscribers, does this mean this person "houshen2 <houshen2@sina.com>" is a list subscriber? --Tim --begin spam example--
On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 10:15:37AM -0700, Tim May wrote:
I like the LNE node, but a lot of junk still seems to get through. If Eric is only passing through the posts of subscribers, does this mean this person "houshen2 <houshen2@sina.com>" is a list subscriber?
[chinese spam deleted] No, that was an error on my part, typing over a high latency connection. Eric
algebra.com also qualifies. I have some aggressive spam filtering that generally applies to all mail coming to algebra.com, but I do not yet block ssz.com. igor On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 09:41:18AM -0700, Eric Murray wrote:
On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 07:58:49AM +0200, Tom wrote:
speaking of unfiltered - I subscribed to ssz exactly because I don't want to have anyone moderating for me. however, the spam volume is deafening.
The LNE node isn't moderated. All posts from list subscribers, to any CDR, plus any post from a non-subscriber that isn't spam, get sent to LNE subscribers.
is there a fee available that is filtered, but only for spam?
LNE qualifies.
Eric
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