Threat Recognition Testing (fwd)
Very interesting and worth more reading. I would guess that even if it moves beyond the lab it will be treated like the polygraph. I wouldn't be surprised though if it is possible to train one's brain to move from state to state at will. Defocus your vision and visualize your training.
Yup, play around with light-sound machines and biofeedback for awhile, you definitely can learn to control your brain waves. This TRT, however, is still pretty scary -- especially if, as they claim, it's allowed as court evidence. Don't know how they could really do that --- not just thought crime, thought conviction as well, eh? mmotyka@lsil.com wrote:
Very interesting and worth more reading. I would guess that even if it moves beyond the lab it will be treated like the polygraph. I wouldn't be surprised though if it is possible to train one's brain to move from state to state at will. Defocus your vision and visualize your training.
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Harmon Seaver wrote:
Yup, play around with light-sound machines and biofeedback for awhile, you definitely can learn to control your brain waves. This TRT, however, is still pretty scary -- especially if, as they claim, it's allowed as court evidence. Don't know how they could really do that --- not just thought crime, thought conviction as well, eh?
As long as you cannot be compelled to let the monkeys attach electrodes to your brain. Mike ( Neo-Luddite )
At 10:18 AM 10/5/01 -0700, mmotyka@lsil.com wrote:
Very interesting and worth more reading. I would guess that even if it moves beyond the lab it will be treated like the polygraph. I wouldn't be surprised though if it is possible to train one's brain to move from state to state at will. Defocus your vision and visualize your training.
Maybe not; the arousal mechanisms they're measuring may be too automatic, not subject to conscious control. Then again, there are yogis who can run their intestinal peristalsis backwards supposedly, and methods to subvert the visceral reactions that polygraphs measure. Its well known that pupils dilate in response to thing you like and contract when thinking or seeing something you don't. You can try this in a mirror.
On Fri, 5 Oct 2001 mmotyka@lsil.com wrote:
Very interesting and worth more reading. I would guess that even if it moves beyond the lab it will be treated like the polygraph. I wouldn't be surprised though if it is possible to train one's brain to move from state to state at will. Defocus your vision and visualize your training.
I think the capabilities claimed are bogus. What they claim for now is describing bleeding edge functional neuroimaging, involving a clinical setting with trained operators and lots of calibration, multi-Tesla research fMRI imaging, and the like. Not a cheap setup, there are only a few labs in the world who can do this. It's hard to see a plain EEG (not even FFT EEG which at least can tell which color you're thinking of, after lots of calibration) operated by knuckledragger operators can achieve anything better than an unbiased coin flip.
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