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Asymmetric wrote:

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That the list be changed so that unregistered email addresses cannot send messages to it? This spam is getting ridiculous.

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The benefits of having the list open to u nsubscribed postings seem far outweighed by the cost in time spent by everyone filtering messages and server resources that could be better spent running dnetc if nothing else ;). It's just auxiliary that I've never seen an anonymous post to the list in the past when I subscribed, nor more recently since I resubscribed. Undoubtedly some smartass will send an anonymous message to the list now just to say "see!"

[...snip...] Listen carefully. I will say this only once. All you say is true. Moderated and closed lists are good ideas. Such good ideas that nearly every mailing list in the world is closed and moderated. But maybe, just maybe, there is some reason for an open, unmoderated list. Just one in the whole world. Or maybe there are some loonies who for motives of their own (that you might or might not approve of, as if they cared), wish to read such a list. This is that list. These are those loonies. If you don't like it, or them, you can join another list. No-ones stopping you. You can even make your own list if you want. It's like someone visits a farm and complains that the place is full of animals... or a farmer visits the city and moans about all those houses...

What about just creating another list (closed-posting) and then just allowing people to choose which to subscribe to? Obviously, the open-posting list would be subscribed to the closed posting list, but not the other way around.. so at the risk of missing the massively important anonymous message that has yet to be sent, I could eliminate some of this spam?

Another good suggestion. So good I think someone made it back in about 1995 (or was it 1997?). Feel free to create such a list yourself, if you want another one.