Okay, cypherpunks - I've watched enough "unsubscribe me" requests drop in, now I figure (that's a Virginia word, BTW) that since I'm silently digesting most of this nonsense, I can at least crop a few pennies in the mill from time to time. I've managed to irk several of you with the virus encryption post (a bona fide topic, for those of you who snicker); then with the "Why Anon (especially when there are twelve step programs) ?", but the federal deficit is peanuts to popcorn compared to the bandwidth wasted here. <Soap_box_mode_off> Lest I begin to resemble some cypher-drop-out (never happen), let's re-examine what we are now discussing: o Problems (solved yet?) with penet.fi o Arguments and innuendo regarding: _ digital cash _ digital anarchy (Gee, thanks, Tim.) _ digital bad-mouthing The one topic that _does_ interest me is the nonsensical fodder stemming from a post regarding the (actual?) governmental consideration to license keys. That just drops my carrier. This is probably the one reason why I tolerate the wasted bandwidth here -- there are many powerful souls amongst you (us) who can keep this bullshit from happening. On a serious note, I have been a programmer-slash-analyst from the card-punch days of not_so_old. My assembly programming began in the bowels of a IBM 360; somehow that weeded it's way into the desktop arena. Damned odd. Now I just put networks together. Much like tinker toys. My (long-winded) question is this: What are cypherpunk priorities? (NO, no, please do not cite the norms. I've heard 'em.) Where are we going with anon mailers? Are they going to serve us or cause us unlimited problems? (From a political point of view?) I stand _strongly_ behind private communications, and behind the right to privately encrypt. Personally, I do not think that it can be taken away from us. Thoughts? Cheers. Paul Ferguson | Network Integration Consultant | "All of life's answers are Alexandria, Virginia USA | on TV." fergp@sytex.com (Internet) | -- Homer Simpson sytex.com!fergp (UUNet) | 1:109/229 (FidoNet) | PGP public encryption key available upon request.
Paul Ferguson asks: "What are cypherpunk priorities?" Here's my list, in order: Technical track: 1. More remailer usage. You can't start rearranging the order of incoming and outgoing messages until you have messages to reorder. Right now routing is still hard, even using a script. Thus priority 1 implies number 2: 2. Outgoing rewriting systems integrated into mailers. Until one can say To: cypherpunks in their mailer and have this turned into a double-hop, fully encrypted message on the way out, I don't think you'll see a huge amount of traffic. 3. Mixing remailers. Until mailers mix, they are extremely vulnerable to network monitoring. Mixing is rearranging the order of incoming and outgoing messages, with a known lower bound on the number of messages it could have been rearranged with. Mixing also requires message size quantization, since reordering is only significant among messages of identical length. Note that this requires a significant volume of traffic per remailer. While this is a high priority, its implementation is not imminent. 4. Positive reputations. The very simplest reputation is a signature claiming identity. Deployment of signature-based communication fora is the first step. Political track: 1. Understand the nature of anonymity now and in the future. We are trying to improve the world, not just change it. It is therefore necessary that we try to the limits our ability to understand the effects of the social changes. 2. Making our arguments public. Once we have convinced ourselves, we have to convince others. This means public participation in conferences such as CFP, in the editorial pages of newspapers, in the IETF meetings, in Usenet newsgroups, and, if necessary, in courts. And a word of advice: Arguments are more effective the fewer shared assumptions between the parties there are. In particular, while you can convice another libertarian with a libertarian argument, you can't convince a socialist with one. Nevertheless, both libertarians and socialists desire open societies and personal privacy. We must base our arguments on deep shared culture if they are going to succeed. 3. Going international. There do and will exist national restrictions on various and different aspects of privacy goals. One can go around many of these restrictions by going around the nation involved. Knowledge is extremely difficult to contain, so let us make more of it, everywhere in the world! 4. Fighting restrictions on cryptography. In the US, that means getting actively engaged in fighting key registration ideas. This means preemptively writing your elected leaders _in advance_ of a specific issue. It also means writing about export restrictions in cryptography. In France, that means raising public awareness on cryptography restrictions and the eventual effects that will have on the open society there. In all countries, it requires vigilance. 5. Increasing awareness of privacy issues. Most think they have nothing to hide. Most also hate it when they get extremely detailed junk mail about their own lives. Teach the defense of privacy. Eric
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Eric Hughes
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