BTW, a friend of mine is looking for a head of Sec Ops for a large bank in the UK. That person has to be comfortable talking to suits and doing powerpoint, along with having run Sec Ops before. It'll pay in pounds, recommendations or applications by known cypherpunks welcome. This is NOT JbT name phishing, but the usual precautions should apply. -TD _________________________________________________________________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008