On Wednesday 23 July 2003 02:56, Sarad AV wrote:

Yesterdays briefing on the death of saddams sons-the bodies were said to be send for positive identification through dna tests.How are these samples obtained anyway?Royal Saloons,Royal Doctors,Visits to the US during peace times?What more effecient methods are used?

Samples from known relatives, I'd guess, along with any other means that comes to hand. -- Steve Furlong Computer Condottiere Have GNU, Will Travel "If someone is so fearful that, that they're going to start using their weapons to protect their rights, makes me very nervous that these people have these weapons at all!" -- Rep. Henry Waxman

Bah! Saddam has become the new Eric Goldstien since Osama Bin Ladin is quieter. Perhaps the CIA's voice lab is better at cloning his voice? hence the poor quality audio tapes? I wonder how hard it is to capture a person's phoenems and feed it to a good quality speech synth? I wonder if recording it on a cheap tape with a microphone will remove all traces of it being fake. The hard part will of course be getting the inflections right. Perhaps if you tie a speech recognition system with a speech synth, the recognition system might be able to detect inflection, tone, and rate, and provide hints to the synth? Wouldn't even have to work in real time. Hey, if they were willing to push Hans Blix around until he called the bastards and reported all the pressure to "find something" and offed David Kelley, why not something like a Saddam Vactor? I'm sure they could even sprinkle the old DNA samples around some shack in the woods of Iran or Saudi Arabia or something, along with some uranium or anthrax samples and aluminu cylinders, as proof that they were harboring him as a prelude to another invasion. Why the fuck not? 50 states isn't enough, and North America's getting too crowded, let's take over the entire Middle East... After that, let's take over France too and make them say "EMAIL" and eat only McDonalds' cheeseburgers and drink only Budwiser. But that can wait until after we mine all of Liberia's diamonds... hey we can't afford another war just yet, need to make money first... The sky's the limit, just vote for Bush again, and after him Condoleeza Rice can be our first female president with Ashcroft as VP. We can be very politically correct that way. ----------------------Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--------------------------- + ^ + :25Kliters anthrax, 38K liters botulinum toxin, 500 tons of /|\ \|/ :sarin, mustard and VX gas, mobile bio-weapons labs, nukular /\|/\ <--*-->:weapons.. Reasons for war on Iraq - GWB 2003-01-28 speech. \/|\/ /|\ :Found to date: 0. Cost of war: $800,000,000,000 USD. \|/ + v + : The look on Sadam's face - priceless! --------_sunder_@_sunder_._net_------- http://www.sunder.net ------------ On Wed, 23 Jul 2003, Tim May wrote:

Hair samples, dandruff, etc. A bunch of reports over the past several months that the houses and villas of Hussein and his family had been gone over carefully for traces of hair, old shaving razors, skin particles, etc.

Even if doctors and such have not been bribed or coerced into providing blood samples, lots of ways to track DNA. All a matter of economics, as usual.

--Tim May