-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- At 06:15 PM 9/6/2001 -0500, amp wrote: On Wednesday 05 September 2001 10:51 am, David Honig wrote:
At 09:49 AM 9/5/01 -0700, John Young wrote:
Isn't what is new here is that the man did not publish this material as was the material of Joyce, Miller, et al? Nobody saw it except him and the cop who discovered it.
Wasn't it his *parents* who read his journal and turned him in, hoping for 'treatment' instead of jail? Shades of David & Ted Kaczynski...
Indeed. From press accounts, his mother turned him in. (That's how Fedgov got his diary/notebook from what I understand.) The appelate decision that was recently in the news is that he pled guilty thinking he would get probation/treatment. The judge, in effect said, "I don't know why the hell you would have thought that. Lock him up!"
I'm concerned that Fedgov has been able to successfully prosecute this thoughtcrime using his own private writings. It could very well be possible that writing his evil thoughts down kept him from acting on them. I know that sometimes when I have a good rant building up, I have to just write it to get it out of my system. This case could well have unintended consequences if people finally understand that Fedgov doesn't give a rat's ass about any alleged 'right to privacy'. Americans allegedly have right to 'keep and bear arms' as well, spelled out on paper (currently being used as toilet paper in government offices across the land), but there are thousands of laws regulating against same.
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I'm confused about "Fedgov" references. This was a state law and a state prosecution and a state judge. Doesn't make it right, but it has little to do with "Fedgov." -Declan On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 05:30:19PM -0700, keyser-soze@hushmail.com wrote:
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At 06:15 PM 9/6/2001 -0500, amp wrote: On Wednesday 05 September 2001 10:51 am, David Honig wrote:
At 09:49 AM 9/5/01 -0700, John Young wrote:
Isn't what is new here is that the man did not publish this material as was the material of Joyce, Miller, et al? Nobody saw it except him and the cop who discovered it.
Wasn't it his *parents* who read his journal and turned him in, hoping for 'treatment' instead of jail? Shades of David & Ted Kaczynski...
Indeed. From press accounts, his mother turned him in. (That's how Fedgov got his diary/notebook from what I understand.) The appelate decision that was recently in the news is that he pled guilty thinking he would get probation/treatment. The judge, in effect said, "I don't know why the hell you would have thought that. Lock him up!"
I'm concerned that Fedgov has been able to successfully prosecute this thoughtcrime using his own private writings. It could very well be possible that writing his evil thoughts down kept him from acting on them. I know that sometimes when I have a good rant building up, I have to just write it to get it out of my system. This case could well have unintended consequences if people finally understand that Fedgov doesn't give a rat's ass about any alleged 'right to privacy'. Americans allegedly have right to 'keep and bear arms' as well, spelled out on paper (currently being used as toilet paper in government offices across the land), but there are thousands of laws regulating against same.
This may continue until JDF types with nothing to lose (e.g., diagnosed with a terminal illness) put selected DOJ, FBI and Congressional targets in their sights.
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It's mostly the result of habit these days. Since the evil of Fedgov is so pervasive these days, it's easy to forget it's many Stategov minions. I stand corrected on that in this particular case. On Thursday 06 September 2001 09:58 pm, Declan McCullagh wrote:
I'm confused about "Fedgov" references. This was a state law and a state prosecution and a state judge. Doesn't make it right, but it has little to do with "Fedgov."
-Declan
On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 05:30:19PM -0700, keyser-soze@hushmail.com wrote:
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At 06:15 PM 9/6/2001 -0500, amp wrote:
On Wednesday 05 September 2001 10:51 am, David Honig wrote:
At 09:49 AM 9/5/01 -0700, John Young wrote:
Isn't what is new here is that the man did not publish this material as was the material of Joyce, Miller, et al? Nobody saw it except him and the cop who discovered it.
Wasn't it his *parents* who read his journal and turned him in, hoping for 'treatment' instead of jail? Shades of David & Ted Kaczynski...
Indeed. From press accounts, his mother turned him in. (That's how Fedgov got
his diary/notebook from what I understand.) The appelate decision that was recently in the news is that he pled guilty thinking he would get probation/treatment. The judge, in effect said, "I don't know why the hell you would have thought that. Lock him up!"
I'm concerned that Fedgov has been able to successfully prosecute this
thoughtcrime using his own private writings. It could very well be possible that writing his evil thoughts down kept him from acting on them. I know that sometimes when I have a good rant building up, I have to just write it to get it out of my system. This case could well have unintended consequences if people finally understand that Fedgov doesn't give a rat's ass about any alleged 'right to privacy'. Americans allegedly have right to 'keep and bear arms' as well, spelled out on paper (currently being used as toilet paper in government offices across the land), but there are thousands of laws regulating against same.
This may continue until JDF types with nothing to lose (e.g., diagnosed with a terminal illness) put selected DOJ, FBI and Congressional targets in their sights.
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