[Brinworld] PhoneCam vs. court; Publishing faces from the street
Man fined for taking photo with phone A man has been fined for apparently taking a photograph of a defendant in court using a mobile phone, it emerged today http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_773538.html?menu=news.technology Teacher sets up drug dealer 'web watch' A teacher sick of drug dealers and addicts in his neighbourhood has taken the drastic measure of posting their pictures on the internet. John Messiter says he has decided to secretly photograph those terrorising the area and make their images public. http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_773853.html?menu=news.technology Interesting privacy/public and libel implications in the latter.
At 02:33 PM 04/25/2003 -0700, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
Teacher sets up drug dealer 'web watch' A teacher sick of drug dealers and addicts in his neighbourhood has taken the drastic measure of posting their pictures on the internet.
John Messiter says he has decided to secretly photograph those terrorising the area and make their images public. http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_773853.html?menu=news.technology
Interesting privacy/public and libel implications in the latter.
There are two categories of people he's likely to photograph - Real drug dealers and users - Falsely accused drug dealers and users The latter should be able to sue him for libel, which is too easy in Britain, modulo a few issues about whether web photographs are libel or slander. Some of the former might also try that, but it's probably too risky, and the black market has other ways to provide legal services and conflict resolution to people who can't use official courts.... On the other hand, crack dealers are less likely to read the web much; if he were to print out posters and tack them up on lampposts, I'm not sure where "Joe Bloggs, Crack Dealer" would consider them to be annoying libel or free advertising. He says that he wasn't getting adequate response from the police when he called to complain about junkies hanging around, but that he doesn't blame the police, because the Government isn't giving them enough resources to deal with the problem. The site is http://www.crackcocaineincamden.co.uk , and the proprietor's media contact email is messyjay@hotmail.com . I was initially going to flame him for not having a clue about the fact that it's drug laws that cause the problem, but he's almost halfway to getting a clue: "This is not an anti-drugs site. It's an anti-crack site, an anti-heroin site, and most definitely an anti-people-who-do-crack-or-smack-in-the-entrance-to-my-home site" and he thinks that cannabis laws probably aren't necessary and that cannabis users don't cause the social problems that crack users do. His site also says that the UK has "Anti-Social Behaviour Orders" laws from 1998, which lets courts kick someone out of an area for a couple of years. This has its own set of dangers...
On Saturday, April 26, 2003, at 03:12 PM, Bill Stewart wrote:
At 02:33 PM 04/25/2003 -0700, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
Teacher sets up drug dealer 'web watch' A teacher sick of drug dealers and addicts in his neighbourhood has taken the drastic measure of posting their pictures on the internet.
John Messiter says he has decided to secretly photograph those terrorising the area and make their images public. http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_773853.html?menu=news.technology
Interesting privacy/public and libel implications in the latter.
There are two categories of people he's likely to photograph - Real drug dealers and users - Falsely accused drug dealers and users The latter should be able to sue him for libel, which is too easy in Britain, modulo a few issues about whether web photographs are libel or slander. Some of the former might also try that, but it's probably too risky, and the black market has other ways to provide legal services and conflict resolution to people who can't use official courts....
He doesn't have to "falsely accuse" _anyone_. All he does is to demonstrate (claim) that various people are at some location. Those who visit his site are free to draw their own conclusions. --Tim May "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." -- Nietzsche
On Sat, 26 Apr 2003, Tim May wrote:
demonstrate (claim)
Not the same thing, not even synonyms. More CACL noise. -- ____________________________________________________________________ We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. Criswell, "Plan 9 from Outer Space" ravage@ssz.com jchoate@open-forge.org www.ssz.com www.open-forge.org --------------------------------------------------------------------
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Bill Stewart
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Jim Choate
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Major Variola (ret)
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Tim May