The JYA and Gas Pipelines story keeps having legs; at least one formerly well-marked pipeline fingered by JYA no longer has a sign, presumably because the Republicans are chicken that somebody will try to blow them up. (New York may be on Orange Alert, but they're still Yellow...) The on-line NYTimes requires registration - if the old "cypherpunks" login doesn't work, you can create your own fake id. http://nytimes.com/2004/08/29/nyregion/29pipeline.html Mapping Natural Gas Lines: Advise the Public, Tip Off the Terrorists By IAN URBINA Published: August 29, 2004 ---- Bill Stewart bill.stewart@pobox.com
On Sat, 28 Aug 2004, Bill Stewart wrote:
The on-line NYTimes requires registration - if the old "cypherpunks" login doesn't work, you can create your own fake id.
cypherpunks01/cypherpunks01 still works
http://nytimes.com/2004/08/29/nyregion/29pipeline.html Mapping Natural Gas Lines: Advise the Public, Tip Off the Terrorists By IAN URBINA Published: August 29, 2004
---- Bill Stewart bill.stewart@pobox.com
-- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin@mfn.org 0xBD4A95BF "...justice is a duty towards those whom you love and those whom you do not. And people's rights will not be harmed if the opponent speaks out about them." Osama Bin Laden - - - "There aught to be limits to freedom!" George Bush - - - Which one scares you more?
On Sun, Aug 29, 2004 at 12:42:19AM -0500, J.A. Terranson wrote:
The on-line NYTimes requires registration - if the old "cypherpunks" login doesn't work, you can create your own fake id.
cypherpunks01/cypherpunks01 still works
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On Sat, 28 Aug 2004, Bill Stewart wrote:
http://nytimes.com/2004/08/29/nyregion/29pipeline.html Mapping Natural Gas Lines: Advise the Public, Tip Off the Terrorists By IAN URBINA Published: August 29, 2004
"In fact, Mr. Young got his first visit from F.B.I. agents several weeks ago." This can't be right. The *first*? Hell, I get a couple a year on a bad year, and at least one every few years when I'm behaving. How can John not get *any*???
---- Bill Stewart bill.stewart@pobox.com
-- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin@mfn.org 0xBD4A95BF "...justice is a duty towards those whom you love and those whom you do not. And people's rights will not be harmed if the opponent speaks out about them." Osama Bin Laden - - - "There aught to be limits to freedom!" George Bush - - - Which one scares you more?
At 10:48 PM 8/28/2004, J.A. Terranson wrote:
On Sat, 28 Aug 2004, Bill Stewart wrote:
http://nytimes.com/2004/08/29/nyregion/29pipeline.html Mapping Natural Gas Lines: Advise the Public, Tip Off the Terrorists By IAN URBINA Published: August 29, 2004
"In fact, Mr. Young got his first visit from F.B.I. agents several weeks ago."
This can't be right. The *first*? Hell, I get a couple a year on a bad year, and at least one every few years when I'm behaving. How can John not get *any*???
You could check the cypherpunks archives to find out what kinds of cops have visited JYA at various times in the past, but I'd assume that at least some of the Feds have been FBI as opposed to Treasury, CIA, NSA, DEA, VOA, KGB, Mossad, Forest Service, etc. Some quick Google hits include November 2003 http://legalminds.lp.findlaw.com/list/politech/msg04860.html and July 2000 http://seclists.org/lists/politech/2000/Jul/0043.html . Looks like the NYT guy either got this entirely wrong or else was trying to say that a couple of weeks ago was when the FBI first showed up about _this_ particular issue. Bill
The FBI has been set up next door since 1997. Their sole visit was due to stakeouts ringing the wrong door bell. The bastards bang on the wall when it's too quiet in here. Hey, they yell, "baby needs new shoes" -- the signal for us to punch F8 -- pre-recorded for the day's EOS. Wouldn't you play the FBI Terrorist Task Force's contracted EOS for $200K a year? This long-running Broadway hit got started with the Commies, whose babies needed on-the-dole shoes, too. No threat to the State, no need for the octupus. No police state, no need for anarchists. Lots of happy faces in NYC today. We photo'd a group of five "undercover" agents yesterday at one of the lift-gates at Madison Square Garden. Got their attention with the facial-recognition databanking, they not being sure we weren't with internal affairs, so they squint-eyed for the mug shots, the game tape assessment. We kept it up for ten minutes, me freely circling their station, them behind the barricades like penned protestors baiting the oppressors. Another photographer tried doing that and got busted by other officers ready to pounce. I got the orchestrated bust, pre-planned for TV, for DoJ's surveilling crew taping NYC internal affairs surveilling cops, cops surveilling thousands passing by indifferently. The feds seem to think NYC cops will betray the State for a salary boost, the people betray the police for a and end to taxation. Cops got in bed with the Commies, why not with thank-god-for-EOS GOP? Sorry, repeat the question.
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