From talking to DEA agents and former drug/gang members, the drug cartels are just as advanced as the police forces, if not more so. We're seeing

On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 08:30:45PM +0100, matej.kovacic@owca.info wrote 1.0K bytes in 28 lines about: : The site mentioned (http://www.nuevolaredoenvivo.es.tl/) is promoting : Tor use. It seems the victim used Tor, but the gangsters were able to : identify and kill him anyway... There's nothing in the chron.com report, nor that site, that ties Tor usage to the targeted/killed people. Using a hidden service may help protect both the site and users. I talked to a journalist from a newspaper in Mexico City concerned about journalist safety in light of the ongoing drug wars. Most of the discussion was about how internet surveillance can happen and things people can do to stay safe, even if they aren't reporting on the drug wars. There was another journalist from an activist organization with the same sorts of questions. In both cases, the bulk of the discussion wasn't around the technology, but about the social aspects of anonymity. If you use tor to successfully hide from an adversary who runs the ISP, but login to facebook and join an anti-zeta group under your real name and profile, well, you've lost your anonymity. I mentioned http://advocacy.globalvoicesonline.org/, specifically http://advocacy.globalvoicesonline.org/projects/guide/, as examples of places to learn more about blogging/reporting in dangerous areas. CPJ also has a guide to reporting in dangerous places, https://www.cpj.org/reports/2003/02/journalist-safety-guide.php. This violence against journalists (both citizen and traditional) is nothing new for lots of places in the world. It seems American's aren't used to seeing it this close to our borders, https://www.cpj.org/americas/mexico/. Tor alone cannot save you in completely hostile situations. Understanding the environment and making decisions on your own is key. Many people are struggling with the understanding part due to being overwhelmed with the technical knowledge required to stay completely safe online, yet still live in a hostile area. The lack of understanding leads to poor or uninformed decisions. No software is going to solve some of these issues. the results of this in the targeted killings based on online activities. -- Andrew pgp key: 0x74ED336B _______________________________________________ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE