Yeah, not that I frequent them much - as I don't think that spending $7 on a greasy vendi Crappuchino* or whatever full of caffeine, corn syrup and heavy cream is a wise way to spend $7 when the corner deli has damned good coffee for $1.25, but Harbucks** reminds me of the beatnick coffee houses of the days of lore, where men would gather and talk of revolution. :) Strange that such a place is now connected with "Working for The Man" and creeping consumerism, and evil corporations... Of course, now, the local Harbucks, it's full of palm pilot bearing geeks trying to nervously hook up with a prospective date, while sitting in comfy cartoonish chairs and couches (think the more LSD like Tom & Jerry episodes), getting wired on expensive caffeine and sugar and complaining about not being able to take the pressure**1/2, while surfing wired.com or slashdot.org wirlessly, or in need of passing time for the sake of just passing time without getting nabbed by the gendarmes for loitering behding the 7-11 and drinking non-alcoholic beer*. That, and the current dive dot bomb that has hired me as a sysadmin and working me 70 hours a week in this sinking market, has so little room for private meetings that we've had to have some there - in public (irony!), so on the flip side, I see it as a work related place - not conducive to enjoyment. Bah, gimme the corner Irish Bar where nobody knows my name***, but has a fresh Guinness on tap, and a damned good bacon mushroom cheeseburger with a side of fries (and malt vinegar), no cat to ask for my slice of pecan pie**** or 20+ year old single malt scotch (made in Scotland of course!) and I'm a happy, damed, cyperpunk for fuck's sake! * Sly Beavis and Butthead refrence ** Slyer still South Park refrence - at least it doesn't taste like vomit. :) **1/2 - Tweak character out of South Park referring to episode featuring Harbucks. *** Obligatory anonimity refrence - to keep this on topic - not that anyone cares anymore about not pissing in the pool like 2nd graders**** **** South Park again, what else. ----------------------Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--------------------------- + ^ + :NSA got $20Bil/year |Passwords are like underwear. You don't /|\ \|/ :and didn't stop 9-11|share them, you don't hang them on your/\|/\ <--*-->:Instead of rewarding|monitor, or under your keyboard, you \/|\/ /|\ :their failures, we |don't email them, or put them on a web \|/ + v + :should get refunds! |site, and you must change them very often. --------_sunder_@_sunder_._net_------- http://www.sunder.net ------------ On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, Jay h wrote:

---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Matthew X <profrv@nex.net.au> Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 20:47:49 +1100

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street, and through the windows of a Starbucks and a Victoria's Secret.

Yes all those evil weapons of mass destruction made by Victoria's Secret... they MUST BE STOPPED!

The obsession with Starbucks really puzzles me. Starbucks is one of the few mass retailers that actually offers medical coverage to even part timers, it allows people to move from place to place and pick up employment at another store, their policies have always been actively supportive of people discriminated against elsewhere such as lesbian and gay, and unlike Walmart, their prices pose no threat to the beloved 'mom and pop' stores in a community. It would seem there are better targets to attack as the evil tools of oppression.

j

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