On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Sam Ritchie wrote:
That's the whole deal with the bible, and its various internal contradictions. If anything can be proven true in the bible, then there's no room for faith anymore, which nullifies religious "beliefs"; and if anything can be proven false, then there's no god, and religion is crushed under the heel of reason. Hurrah, Enlightenment! ~SAM
Don't bet on it. I was in a discussion group a week or so ago and one lady who is super devout (of some christian sect, I'm not really sure which one) claimed that she was always "testing her faith" every day. It really shook me up because I have faith in testing. Religion and reason are not in the same universe! My favorite response on the subject of god is "I have no need of that hypothisis". I forget who it's attributed to, but I think it was from the late 1800's. Patience, persistence, truth, Dr. mike
On Thursday 14 November 2002 03:50, you wrote:
On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Sam Ritchie wrote:
That's the whole deal with the bible, and its various internal contradictions. If anything can be proven true in the bible, then there's no room for faith anymore, which nullifies religious "beliefs"; and if anything can be proven false, then there's no god, and religion is crushed under the heel of reason. Hurrah, Enlightenment! ~SAM
Don't bet on it. I was in a discussion group a week or so ago and one lady who is super devout (of some christian sect, I'm not really sure which one) claimed that she was always "testing her faith" every day. It really shook me up because I have faith in testing. Religion and reason are not in the same universe!
My favorite response on the subject of god is "I have no need of that hypothisis". I forget who it's attributed to, but I think it was from the late 1800's.
Patience, persistence, truth, Dr. mike
The religious person is always battling against reality wich with a minimum of inteligence from the observer always bring doubts on the truth of his faith. It's a state of mind wich can only be compared with mental ilness... (I've read that there are even some neurological similarities between the faithful and the mentaly ill) The author of that statement: "I have no need of that hipotheses" was Laplace, french mathematician on answering Napoleon's question in why is book on newtonian mechanics didn't call for god. Andri Esteves
On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, [iso-8859-1] Andri Isidoro Fernandes Esteves wrote:
The religious person is always battling against reality wich with a minimum of inteligence from the observer always bring doubts on the truth of his faith.
It's a state of mind wich can only be compared with mental ilness... (I've read that there are even some neurological similarities between the faithful and the mentaly ill)
I won't disagree, but I think we better live in a bunker!
The author of that statement: "I have no need of that hipotheses" was Laplace, french mathematician on answering Napoleon's question in why is book on newtonian mechanics didn't call for god.
thank you! Looks like my date was off by 100 years :-) Patience, persistence, truth, Dr. mike
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It's a state of mind wich can only be compared with mental ilness... (I've read that there are even some neurological similarities between the faithful and the mentaly ill)
The belief (faith) center is somewhere in the frontal cortex and that mutation was essential for development of the civilisation as we know it, which basically boils down to brainwashing believers into beating the shit out of nonbelievers (and these, being independent individuals, never managed to properly organise to resist), which is evolutionary sustainable (when the shit gets beaten out of you it takes your mind of sex.) So, technically speaking, it's more specialisation than mental illness. ===== end (of original message) Y-a*h*o-o (yes, they scan for this) spam follows: Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com
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