Recommendations for Cypherpunks Books
I would like to read worthwhile books in the cypherpunk genre! I have a few questions: Can you distinguish a "cypherpunk" genre from a "cyberpunk" genre, and is it a worthwhile distinction, and what are the features ? What are the worthwhile books to read to learn about cryptography in the future, and the culture of people "into" cryptography ("cryptoheads"!) ? Foobulus Barraculus _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, Foobulus Baracades wrote:
I would like to read worthwhile books in the cypherpunk genre! I have a few questions:
Can you distinguish a "cypherpunk" genre from a "cyberpunk" genre, and is it a worthwhile distinction, and what are the features ?
Yes, it is worthwhile. Good luck finding anything that is remotely acceptable.
What are the worthwhile books to read to learn about cryptography in the future, and the culture of people "into" cryptography ("cryptoheads"!) ?
Start with 'Applied Cryptography'. There are some other books listed at, http://einstein.ssz.com/cdr/index.html#reading ____________________________________________________________________ Before a larger group can see the virtue of an idea, a smaller group must first understand it. "Stranger Suns" George Zebrowski The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage@ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 02:01:23PM -0600, Jim Choate wrote:
Can you distinguish a "cypherpunk" genre from a "cyberpunk" genre, and is it a worthwhile distinction, and what are the features ?
Yes, it is worthwhile. Good luck finding anything that is remotely acceptable.
Quick tip: Anything that Choate recommends, avoid. You could search on politechbot.com for "cypherpunk," I presume. Or wired.com. -Declan
At 04:26 AM 1/21/01 -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote:
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 02:01:23PM -0600, Jim Choate wrote:
Can you distinguish a "cypherpunk" genre from a "cyberpunk" genre, and is it a worthwhile distinction, and what are the features ?
Yes, it is worthwhile. Good luck finding anything that is remotely acceptable.
Quick tip: Anything that Choate recommends, avoid.
You could search on politechbot.com for "cypherpunk," I presume. Or wired.com.
Take anything Declan says with a grain of salt, too - he leaves the "CDR" in the subject line. Just do some searches on the two terms, and if you have two brain cells to rub together, you'll figure it out in fairly short order. Once you have a better idea what the difference between the two is, you'll be in a better position to ask relevant questions. Reese
On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 12:27:20AM -1000, Reese wrote:
Take anything Declan says with a grain of salt, too - he leaves the "CDR" in the subject line.
Yawn. Some things are not worth my time, and editing Choatisms is one of those. Flaming him is slightly more rewarding, but ranks as pleasures about as high as watching George W. Bush be inaugurated: It's more interesting for the reaction than the substance. Similarly, if Reese is the best intellect that the cypherpunks list offers nowadays, not only is that a damnable shame, but a strong indicator that it's time to leave. Guess I'm starting to sound like Tim. -Declan
ROTFLMAO!!! At 10:26 AM 1/21/01 -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote:
On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 12:27:20AM -1000, Reese wrote:
Take anything Declan says with a grain of salt, too - he leaves the "CDR" in the subject line.
Yawn. Some things are not worth my time, and editing Choatisms is one of those. Flaming him is slightly more rewarding, but ranks as pleasures about as high as watching George W. Bush be inaugurated: It's more interesting for the reaction than the substance.
Similarly, if Reese is the best intellect that the cypherpunks list offers nowadays, not only is that a damnable shame, but a strong indicator that it's time to leave. Guess I'm starting to sound like Tim.
-Declan
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