Re: Underestimating long-term consequences of cryptoanarchy
Tim May wrote...
But my point is that heavy crypto will probably have unforseeable effects on the notion of the state, >>probably not wipe it out.
Banal comments.
Come back when you have something to actually say.
Poo poo, King of the Anarchists. Those banal comments were made in response to an earlier statement of mine taken out of context. -TD PS: How long, on average, after someone signs onto the list does it take for you to 'plonk' them? I guess this means you need a constant supply of "fresh meat" in order for you to find out what's being discussed!
From: Tim May <timcmay@got.net> To: cypherpunks@lne.com Subject: Re: Underestimating long-term consequences of cryptoanarchy Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 23:59:57 -0700
On Tuesday, May 6, 2003, at 08:05 AM, Tyler Durden wrote:
Kevin S. vanHorn wrote...
Likewise with governments. I still need my trash taken out, and for potholes to be fixed.
What makes you think government is needed at all for these? My trash is taken out by a private company, not by any government. And privately built and maintained roads have existed for a very long time.
Of course. But you've got to read further into my post to see the point. I'm thinking that in the future, some aspects of government might be competitive with the private sector to obtain public $$$, much like the US mail now competes with UPS and FedEx. Like in Stephenson's Snow Crash, many functions might be opt-in, including possibly war....
For instance, imagine where budget items are voted on directly, and regularly by voters. Would IraqII have occurred? (I bet not.) (My Jazz musician brother has suggested that "you should be able to vote any elected official directly into jail, no questions asked".)
But my point is that heavy crypto will probably have unforseeable effects on the notion of the state, probably not wipe it out.
Banal comments.
Come back when you have something to actually say.
--Tim May "That the said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms." --Samuel Adams
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On Wed, 07 May 2003, Tyler Durden wrote:
PS: How long, on average, after someone signs onto the list does it take for you to 'plonk' them? I guess this means you need a constant supply of "fresh meat" in order for you to find out what's being discussed!
OK, you're being a crank now. I've been on the list from one address or another since 1993, have had some fights with Tim, and (so far as I know) never been killfiled by him. I usually only post when I have something to say, which may have something to do with that. And if I were included, who cares? why are cranks so interested in the contents of Tim's killfile? I suppose I don't understand the desire to dance at the edge of a given poster's range of annoyance. I can't speak for Tim, but ranting about list politics is something that gets you into *my* procmailrc rather quickly. I haven't added you next to Choate and profv yet, as you sometimes have a point, but keep working it, and the cost of your postings will outweigh the utility of reading them. Will you then rant about Jamie's killfile? -j -- Jamie Lawrence jal@jal.org Computer Science is Applied Philosophy.
On Wed, May 07, 2003 at 01:12:49PM -0500, Jamie Lawrence wrote:
I can't speak for Tim, but ranting about list politics is something that gets you into *my* procmailrc rather quickly. I haven't added you next to Choate and profv yet, as you sometimes have a point, but keep working it, and the cost of your postings will outweigh the utility of reading them. Will you then rant about Jamie's killfile?
Or mine? I only have two entries in my killfile at this point (and I subscribe to the lne.com node, so reading the list is far more pleasant than it was a few years ago). Jamie makes a good point: Complaining about someone's killfile does not make for interesting reading or compelling discussion. Give it up and move on or be ignored, I'd say. -Declan
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