CDR: A very brief politcal rant
If the citizens of Missouri chose to elect a deceased person as Senator, I think that's exactly what they should get. Leave the seat empty for two years.
In <973697805.3a09730d4e448@webmail.cotse.com>, on 11/08/00 at 09:36 AM, brflgnk@cotse.com said:
If the citizens of Missouri chose to elect a deceased person as Senator, I think that's exactly what they should get. Leave the seat empty for two years.
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At 10:36 AM 11/8/00 -0500, brflgnk@cotse.com wrote:
If the citizens of Missouri chose to elect a deceased person as Senator, I think that's exactly what they should get. Leave the seat empty for two years.
Nah! Just dig him up and wheel him to all the meetings. (I believe that has been done at some British university. Not certain. Too much Ripley's Believe It or Not as a kid...) --- | Terrorists - The Boogiemen for a new Millennium. | |"The moral PGP Diffie taught Zimmermann unites all| Disclaimer: | | mankind free in one-key-steganography-privacy!" | Ignore the man | | | behind the keyboard.| | http://www.ctrl-alt-del.com/~alan/ |alan@ctrl-alt-del.com|
At 10:36 AM -0500 on 11/8/00, brflgnk@cotse.com wrote:
If the citizens of Missouri chose to elect a deceased person as Senator, I think that's exactly what they should get.
Would that we were all so fortunate. Imagine, a whole senate full of dead people. Well... empty seats representing dead people. Or something. Missouri, the show me state, indeed. Let's see, somebody could go around and collect petition signatures for famous ex-sons-of-Massachusetts. *Lots* of those. John Adams? Sam Adams?... Hmmm....What was the name of the first colonist killed at Concord? Oops. Wait a minute. That would not, in fact, get the result we desire. In fact, we'd get the worst of all possible worlds. If I recall correctly, dead Republicans *don't* vote. Only dead *Democrats* can do *that*... ;-). Cheers, RAH -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah@ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'
If the citizens of Missouri chose to elect a deceased person as Senator, I
At 05:47 PM 11/8/00 -0500, brflgnk@cotse.com wrote: think
that's exactly what they should get. Leave the seat empty for two years.
Maybe she and Bono ("tree, get out out my way, I'm a congressman")'s ho can form a congressional dead-man running club...
On Wed, 08 Nov 2000, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
At 10:36 AM -0500 on 11/8/00, brflgnk@cotse.com wrote:
If the citizens of Missouri chose to elect a deceased person as Senator, I think that's exactly what they should get.
Would that we were all so fortunate. Imagine, a whole senate full of dead people. Well... empty seats representing dead people. Or something.
Missouri, the show me state, indeed.
I can hear the stand up comics now.... The new motto of Missouri Democrats... "I see dead people..." Now dead democrats can vote for dead democrats.... I gotta get out of this state. Nevada is sounding pretty cool and I wouldn't have to fly to DEFCON. (hear that Steve?) jim -- Sometimes it is said that man can not be trusted with the government of himself. Can he, then, be trusted with the government of others? Or have we found angels in the forms of kings to govern him? Let history answer this question. -- Thomas Jefferson, 1st Inaugural
On Wed, 08 Nov 2000, William H. Geiger III wrote:
In <973697805.3a09730d4e448@webmail.cotse.com>, on 11/08/00
at 09:36 AM, brflgnk@cotse.com said:
If the citizens of Missouri chose to elect a deceased person as Senator, I think that's exactly what they should get. Leave the seat empty for two years.
Someone had brought up the Constitutionality of having a dead man on the ballot. The reasoning was that the deceased are no longer legally citizens and therefore do not meet the Constitutional requirements for office.
Even more significant is that a dead man cannot take the oath of office. If he can't take the oath of office he can't occupy the office. The governor only has the power to replace a senatoratorial position if the current office holder dies. Since Carnahan died before he took office, the office remains unfilled. The governor does not have power to appoint senators willy-nilly. The office must be held before it can be filled. The correct solution would be to hold a special election so that the public has a chance to know who they are voting into office. What the democrats are afraid of is that his wife might be less fit to hold that office than her husband in some democrat's minds (after debates etc). Here is a question? Would it be vote fraud to run one person's name on the ballot and replace him with someone else when he won? jim -- Sometimes it is said that man can not be trusted with the government of himself. Can he, then, be trusted with the government of others? Or have we found angels in the forms of kings to govern him? Let history answer this question. -- Thomas Jefferson, 1st Inaugural
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