---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 17:33:10 -0500 (CDT) From: Jim Choate <ravage@ssz.com> To: "Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law" <froomkin@law.miami.edu> Cc: Dennis Glatting <dennis.glatting@software-munitions.com>, Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com>, cryptography@wasabisystems.com Subject: Re: If we had key escrow, Scarfo wouldn't be a problem On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law wrote:

To be clear, I am *NOT* arguing for key escrow. Just saying that since I'm against it, I accept that there may be scope for judicious, paper-trail oriented, key logging.

Of course there is, the question is does one use the key logging to get probable cause; or as the 4th requires probable cause to do the key logging. The current trend is to use surveillance technology to obtain 'probable cause', this is in direct opposition to the letter and intent of the 4th. Got a warrant, scan, search, collect all you want. Don't have a warrant then leave people the hell alone. -- ____________________________________________________________________ natsugusa ya...tsuwamonodomo ga...yume no ato summer grass...those mighty warriors'...dream-tracks Matsuo Basho The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage@ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- -------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe cryptography" to majordomo@wasabisystems.com