"YOU want to do the encryption, not the ISP who can be secretly subpoenaed to hand over the plain text." Well, that too! My point is and has been "crypto is econnomics" (to paraphrase Tim May during one of his moments of clarity). Better to get 'them' to get a subpeona and make 'em expend the effort (and $$$), just to find out the email's about Pamela Anderson's boobs. Or, better yet, to find out the enduser also encrypted the email (AND it's about Pamela Anderson's boobs). Even if they dig out the plaintext, let them spend thousands of $$$ while we spend pennies. Eventually you gotta figure that'll eat into the invasionary funds, no? (Or am I being naive?) -TD

From: Neil Johnson <njohnsn@njohnsn.com> To: cypherpunks@lne.com Subject: Re: "If you use encryption, you help the terrorists win" Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:37:47 -0600

On Monday 27 October 2003 10:53 am, Tyler Durden wrote:

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Hum...can an ISP offer encryption as a service?

-TD

Ummm, are we forgetting about the Patriot Act and siblings ?

YOU want to do the encryption, not the ISP who can be secretly subpoenaed to hand over the plain text.

At least if you get a subpoena you know about it.

-- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP key available on request.

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