Re: [Re: Slashdot | Michigan May Outlaw Anonymity Online]
You can't expect to have privacy from ghosts, but ghosts can only scare fertile/isolated minds. Alan Olsen <alan@clueserver.org> wrote:
On Sun, 11 Feb 2001, Jim Choate wrote:
There are times when I wish I had enough money to hire the lawyers it would take to initiate a false advertising suit against the United States for billing itself as a "Free country".
For a country that bills itself as a champion of Freedom and Liberty(tm) throughout the world, they sure seem to enact alot of laws treating freedom as something that should be stamped out wherever it is found.
Kind of like Government laws on privacy. Privacy from everyone but the Government.
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I'm sure everyone here feels as enraged by this nonsense as I do. why don't they try to be a little more creative in catching the bad guys? are pedophiles and other bad guys so stupid as to actually sign-up for free isp service with their real names and credit card numbers? (well perhaps by fiat they are incredibly stupid) if you know the suspect's online user name, why not force a local update of the dialer app or 'call to' phone number in the case of the win dialer app, and have the suspect dial into a toll-free exchange? this reveals the number used to originate the call (even if you have the caller-id block enabled...this is just part of the way toll-free calls work). these calls could be matched by login logs to figure out who in real life is the user. at least one major isp does this today and it works well, and conforms to requirements for warrants (not a lawyer, but i know this only happens if an appropriate legal document is issued). if you know the suspect in real life, a phone tap will include the number being called (even electronically), handshaking, etc. plus one could capture data revealing sites visited, etc. it takes work to decode this information, but it's very good information. seeing this story motivated me to donate more money to eff.org and epic.org. and i'm more convinced than ever for the need to start my own private isp and data repository. although, to be honest, the fear of pedophiles using my own anonymous isp forces me to consider a 'web of trust' model in which only the invited can participate. phillip -----Original Message----- From: owner-cypherpunks@Algebra.COM [mailto:owner-cypherpunks@Algebra.COM]On Behalf Of LUIS VILDOSOLA Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 4:15 PM To: cypherpunks@einstein.ssz.com Subject: Re: [Re: Slashdot | Michigan May Outlaw Anonymity Online] You can't expect to have privacy from ghosts, but ghosts can only scare fertile/isolated minds. Alan Olsen <alan@clueserver.org> wrote:
On Sun, 11 Feb 2001, Jim Choate wrote:
There are times when I wish I had enough money to hire the lawyers it would take to initiate a false advertising suit against the United States for billing itself as a "Free country".
For a country that bills itself as a champion of Freedom and Liberty(tm) throughout the world, they sure seem to enact alot of laws treating freedom as something that should be stamped out wherever it is found.
Kind of like Government laws on privacy. Privacy from everyone but the Government.
alan@ctrl-alt-del.com | Note to AOL users: for a quick shortcut to reply Alan Olsen | to my mail, just hit the ctrl, alt and del keys. "In the future, everything will have its 15 minutes of blame."
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