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To permanently restore at least last month's level of service, we need a couple of dedicated, firewalled, buttressed sites. You want a few geographically separated people who own their own systems (or who own or run the company that owns them), who have solid network links (possibly redundant), and who are fully committed to the idea -- as committed as funet.fi to persist past the vilification and harassment and threats.

And those people need backup from the rest of us -- legal help if they need or want it, money to pay the networking bill if things get tight, loans of backup equipment during failures under load, system administration when folks try to break in and trash their machines, software creation and maintenance, advocacy, policy work, advice, and a bunch of shoulders to cry on and warm words of encouragement.

Three to five people providing such setups, in collaboration, would wedge a steel-toed boot so firmly in the door that it couldn't be slammed by any dyspeptic "net god".

Are we up to this job? If not, let's scale back what we're trying to do. I'd rather succeed at raising consciousness on the issue for a later try, than try now to set up such a beachhead and fail at it.

John I am forced to agree with you here..... I dont think we have the "juice" to carry off a maximum effort at this point... I would gladly volunteer to setup such a site AND I would need a peacenet feed instead of the "gratis" connections I obtain from netcom.... I AM already uncoercible... as you well know and I would need you as well as others in backing on this effort...OK kids... Here we have one volunteer if we can get at least 3 other sites(my mininum buyin is 4 US sites).... Hey John... what about you??? cheers kelly p.s. I would be willing to maintain a PAX type anon operation as well as an anon-remailer.....and a KEY server... would also offer the PGP archives via mail server... note that I am uucp connected and would need to upgrade to 56 kb leased or V-FAST technology... - ------- End of Forwarded Message ------- End of Unsent Draft