Re: Why Americans Hate Democrats-A Dialogue
John Young:
Tyler,
Commie is the term used here like is nazi used elsewhere as the most fearsome if thoughtless epithet. Nazi here is a term of endearment, and also admirable role model by some.
Calling someone both is not allowed, check the FAQ under impurity.
Tim May, praise Allah, always claimed cypherpunks was a fair and balanced forum thanks to the one person of the left here who was fingered affectionately like a house rodent, an easy target for errant shooters.
CJ is not to be recalled, ever.
Jim Bell still sends "very important" legal papers, the latest yesterday, which describe the way things should be understood. But who can believe an MIT chemist political prisoner.
CJ and Jim jailed by the Democratic freedom-fighters.
"CJ" is "CJ Parker", who posted a few emails to this list back in early 2003? I guess I haven't been around long enough to know all famous cpunks who have been posting to the list. Maybe someone could tell in short who those were, I guess there are one or two on the list who weren't around and would appreciate the stories. I think I remember having read about Bell, something about him having threatened FBI agents or something? Does Jim Bell post emails somewhere today?
On CJ (Carl Johnson) and Jim Bell: There was a time when the greatest terrorist threat to the US was located in the northwestern part of the country, Idaho, Washington State and Oregon, some of California. Militia the infidels were called. The US Attorney's Office in Tacoma, WA, was a center of counterterrorist activity, aided by FBI, Treasury, IRS, US Marshals, DEA and others. Jim Bell was twice busted, tried, convicted and jailed, by the Tacoma USA, for alleged acts against the USG, primarily the IRS, but knowledgeable citizens presume the assault was the result of his essay, Assassination Politics (AP), which descibed a system for anonymous killing of varmints, government officials especially, but not limited to those. CJ defended Jim with a series of online statements on his behalf, and for allegedly running an online version of AP. For this misbehavior he was busted, tried, convicted and jailed, also by the Tacoma USA. Jim served his first term, allegedly misbehaved again, and was sent to jail again, where he remains and continues to file appeals of his railroading. CJ served a term and is now free, pursuing among other wonders his career as the King of Country Porn. Bell and CJ posted regularly to cypherpunks during their days of pre-jailing, and some of their messages here were used against them during trial. An agent of the IRS, Jeff Gordon was a known subscriber of cypherpunks for the purpose of surveilling members and stashing useful email evidence to advance his career -- Jeff was indeed awarded honors for his investigation and jailing of the heroes of the revolution. Here's a US Marshal report on Jeff's snooping: ----- http://cryptome.org/jdb/usms020499.htm On November 25, 1997, Inspector Jeff GORDAN with the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) Portland, Oregon, contacted the U.S. Marshals Service, Tacoma, Washington, regarding an internet posting he had obtained on this day (see attached). [http://www.inet-one.com/cypherpunks/dir.97.11.20-97.11.26/msg00274.html] On the same date, Deputy U.S. Marshal STEPHENSON contacted Inspector GORDAN in an attempt obtain further details regarding the individuals mentioned in the internet posting. Inspector GORDAN related the following: On May 17, 1997, the IRS in Vancouver, Washington, arrested James Dalton BELL (#26906-086) for threats, assaults, obstruction, and intimidation of employees and officers of the IRS. During IRS's initial investigation of BELL, the IRS discovered that BELL was associated with the Multnomah County Common Law Court as well as the author of "Assassination Politics", an essay that describes and advocates the development and use of a system to reward people who kill selected Government employees. BELL was also known to transmit his beliefs via internet services (see W/WA case #CR97-5270FDB). Inspector GORDON indicated that since BELL's arrest his office has been monitoring internet postings by the Cypherpunks, one of the groups BELL was known to be communicating with. Many of the postings are simply communications between members of the group regarding their dissatisfaction with the Government. Inspector GORDAN related that this posting was a concern due to the statement made by the author, indicating that Tim MAY announced he would be murdering Jim Bell's judge (known to be U.S. District Judge Franklin BURGESS or Magistrate J. Kelly ARNOLD) on Friday, at 4;00 p.m. Inspector GORDAN indicated that he is not familiar with the author of the posting, Bad BobbyH, however he was familiar with Tim MAY. Inspector GORDAN described MAY as being an anarchist/survivalist who seems to spend much of his time communicating his beliefs via the internet. According to Inspector GORDAN, MAY is retired and fairly "well off", making his fortune years ago by developing computer programs. May also has a tendency to attempt to "goat" or "bait" law enforcement officers into taking action and has repeatedly stated he would shoot any law enforcement officers who attempted to arrest him. Inspector GORDAN provided the following information regarding the individuals mentioned in the posting: Timothy C. MAY (DoB: 12/21/51 & SSN: XXX-XX-XXX) XXX Corralltos, CA 95078 Robert HETTINGA XXX Boston, MA 02131 Inspector GORDAN disclosed that his office is unable to trace the posting because the address, Robert Heidegger (rh@dev.null), is false/untraceable. On November 25, 1997, U.S. District Judge Franklin BURGESS and Magistrate Judge J. Kelly ARNOLD were notified by Supervisory Deputy Glenn WHALEY and Deputy STEPHENSON reference the internet posting. A copy of the internet posting was forwarded to FBI Special Agent Ron Stankye (360) 695-5661. Attached is a copy of another posting by the Cypherpunks previously received on June 23, 1997 regarding Magistrate J. Kelly ARNOLD. If you have any questions regarding this matter, please call Deputy STEPHENSON at (253) 593-6344. ----- Several cypherpunks were subpoenaed for the three trials for eithering hosting the list, being named as correspondents with Bell and/or CJ, reporting about the two, or allegedly having information about their seditious activity -- then known as tormenting officials eager to boost counterterrorism funding long before the field went ballistic with Homeland Security golden windfall, praise Allah's generosity. Here are some files on the trials of the two: http://cryptome.org/jdb/jdbfiles.htm (Jim Bell) http://cryptome.org/jdb/cejfiles.htm (CJ) http://danenright.com/mirror/cj/ (CJ) Ever In struggle, Your Commie/Nazi Reporter
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