Re: [IP] One Internet provider's view of FBI's CALEA wiretap push
From: Tyler Durden <camera_lumina@hotmail.com> Sent: Apr 23, 2004 10:09 AM To: cypherpunks@al-qaeda.net Subject: Re: [IP] One Internet provider's view of FBI's CALEA wiretap push
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Well, what if there were 3 passwords:
1) One for Fake data, for amatuers (very few of the MwG will actually be smart enough to look beyond this...that's why they have guns)
2)One for real data...this is what you're hiding
3) One for plausible real data, BUT when this one's used, it also destroys the real data as it opens the plausible real data.
The obvious problem with multiple levels of passwords and data is: When does the guy with the rubber hose stop beating passwords out of you? After he gets one? Yeah, that's plausible, if he's convinced there's only one. But once he's seen a second hidden level, why will he ever believe there's not a third, fourth, etc.? The same calculation applies to a judge or district attorney. He *knows* (even if he's wrong) that there's evidence of kiddie-porn, drug dealing, etc., in there somewhere. He knows you've given up two passwords. Why is he ever going to let you out of jail, or ever going to reduce the charges down to something a normal human might live long enough to serve out the time for?
-TD
--John
On Fri, 23 Apr 2004, John Kelsey wrote:
The obvious problem with multiple levels of passwords and data is: When does the guy with the rubber hose stop beating passwords out of you? After he gets one? Yeah, that's plausible, if he's convinced there's only one. But once he's seen a second hidden level, why will he ever believe there's not a third, fourth, etc.? The same calculation applies to a judge or district attorney. He *knows* (even if he's wrong) that there's evidence of kiddie-porn, drug dealing, etc., in there somewhere. He knows you've given up two passwords. Why is he ever going to let you out of jail, or ever going to reduce the charges down to something a normal human might live long enough to serve out the time for?
This serves a purpose as well. Why would you ever cooperate if you can't expect much from the deal anyway?
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John Kelsey
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