-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- [ a bunch of bickering deleted concerning who was wrong to have lost their temper first. ] Folks, this is the cypherpunks list. I have three observations to make. 1. Joining it is voluntary. 2. It generates a tremendous amount of traffic. 3. Many people on it can write filters and such. It's a technical list. Why do I mention three obvious points? Here's my personal situation. I suspect it is similar to many here. I read many mail lists. The traffic on them is large, and the unsubscribe messages are numerous. Being a pro-code kind of person, rather than complain frequently about people being stupid with unsubscribe requests, I filtered 'em. So, I've never seen the unsubscribe requests. Anything with unsubscribe in the subject gets filtered. I've never seen any of you complain about a problem with the list. Suddenly, some genius craps in my mail file. My problem was with said genius, so I replied to him. End of problem, right? Wrong. Someone with a chip on his shoulder makes a federal case about it and starts name calling. It's really ironic that Tim May gets blasted as a petty vandal for mailing George back a third of George's post. I'm not in any position to be able to help with a problem with the subscription list. When it comes down to a choice between writing a quick filter to make sure I don't see mail that irritates me or complaining, I write a filter. When it comes down to passively accepting "punishment" from someone who voluntarily joined the list, wants to quit the list due to traffic, and then hypocritically worsens the situation by doubling the traffic for a day singlehandedly, I refuse. If this list was for beginning computer users and children, I'd be much more patient. I didn't want George's mail, so I gave it back to him. - -- Bill O'Hanlon Network Systems Corporation bill@network.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.2 iQCVAgUBK6EZ+uUL0gzXlqP9AQGZYAP9G9f/WukRsNPZG4F5MrlVB+gUINW0L2pJ qbYgvbIOReNXckNrDtm/soToE+tMVcRbj3r0fv3VW14fveQssIJE02fpiTxJ/LAZ +pIuOEzYV/tUubm5F5ZeunAt5tnsfCofvqisWVan4tJr8mpL4sx+0z9dTM6xsZcb mLSkZPrDImk= =hpCC -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----