"A good example of monkeywrenching can be found at the article posted earlier, http://www.keepandbeararms.com/angel/articles/consterrorist.htm. This shows an apparently legitimate flyer from the "Phoenix FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force" telling people whom they should watch out for. It includes people who "make numerous references to the US constitution", people who are "'defenders' of the US constitution against federal government and the UN", people who attempt to "police the police" and so on."
Think the criminal defense bar is concerned? ~Aimee
On 16 Nov 2001, at 12:00, Aimee Farr wrote:
"A good example of monkeywrenching can be found at the article posted earlier, http://www.keepandbeararms.com/angel/articles/consterrorist.htm. This shows an apparently legitimate flyer from the "Phoenix FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force" telling people whom they should watch out for. It includes people who "make numerous references to the US constitution", people who are "'defenders' of the US constitution against federal government and the UN", people who attempt to "police the police" and so on."
Think the criminal defense bar is concerned?
~Aimee
Probably not. The act of terrorism isn't "quoting the Constitution", it's "quoting the Constitution without a license". George
I called the FBI yesterday; this is a real flyer. I'll send something Politechwards later on today about it. -Declan On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 12:00:50PM -0600, Aimee Farr wrote:
"A good example of monkeywrenching can be found at the article posted earlier, http://www.keepandbeararms.com/angel/articles/consterrorist.htm. This shows an apparently legitimate flyer from the "Phoenix FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force" telling people whom they should watch out for. It includes people who "make numerous references to the US constitution", people who are "'defenders' of the US constitution against federal government and the UN", people who attempt to "police the police" and so on."
Think the criminal defense bar is concerned?
~Aimee
[up-posted conversation] You are working too hard today. I meant it in the sense that it sounds like they are talking about criminal defense lawyers. (i.e., "make numerous references to the US Constitution," "defenders," ....etc-etc.) :P ~Aimee
I called the FBI yesterday; this is a real flyer. I'll send something Politechwards later on today about it.
-Declan
"A good example of monkeywrenching can be found at the article posted earlier, http://www.keepandbeararms.com/angel/articles/consterrorist.htm. This shows an apparently legitimate flyer from the "Phoenix FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force" telling people whom they should watch out for. It includes people who "make numerous references to the US constitution", people who are "'defenders' of the US constitution against federal government and the UN", people who attempt to "police the
On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 12:00:50PM -0600, Aimee Farr wrote: police" and so
on."
Think the criminal defense bar is concerned?
~Aimee
-- On 16 Nov 2001, at 16:50, Aimee Farr wrote:
I meant it in the sense that it sounds like they are talking about criminal defense lawyers.
(i.e., "make numerous references to the US Constitution," "defenders," ....etc-etc.)
Criminal defense has already been criminalized in hard to enforce laws such as the drug laws, with a various lawyers being busted on charges of providing competent and relevant defense for the accused. Government propaganda is already appearing to justify such punishment. While channel surfing I saw a fictional show about a bunch of lawyers who are in danger of being disbarred for taking drug traffickers as clients, and they are suffering orgasms of liberal guilt about how much they deserve punishment for accepting such terrible clients. Presumably it is still OK for the moment to defend rapists and murderers. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG bHgDORB62aC6HjcAremd3dhdRe6M9c83vYRND2Zh 45QXPQhYmXU9sf6mOHbk16N+w5/9n5dTxqbgu8Ml3
I am no longer on the list. My "Policeman Inside" broke out. He won't let me be associated with silly salad talk, mission orientation, and Levi-Smithing. ~Aimee
-----Original Message----- From: jamesd@echeque.com [mailto:jamesd@echeque.com] Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 1:02 PM To: Declan McCullagh; Aimee Farr Cc: cypherpunks@lne.com Subject: RE: Monkeywrenching
-- On 16 Nov 2001, at 16:50, Aimee Farr wrote:
I meant it in the sense that it sounds like they are talking about criminal defense lawyers.
(i.e., "make numerous references to the US Constitution," "defenders," ....etc-etc.)
Criminal defense has already been criminalized in hard to enforce laws such as the drug laws, with a various lawyers being busted on charges of providing competent and relevant defense for the accused.
Government propaganda is already appearing to justify such punishment. While channel surfing I saw a fictional show about a bunch of lawyers who are in danger of being disbarred for taking drug traffickers as clients, and they are suffering orgasms of liberal guilt about how much they deserve punishment for accepting such terrible clients. Presumably it is still OK for the moment to defend rapists and murderers.
--digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG bHgDORB62aC6HjcAremd3dhdRe6M9c83vYRND2Zh 45QXPQhYmXU9sf6mOHbk16N+w5/9n5dTxqbgu8Ml3
I am no longer on the list. My "Policeman Inside" broke out. He won't let me be associated with silly salad talk, mission orientation, and Levi-Smithing.
You need to build an inner jail for your inner policeman! But to make sure that he has due process, you need an inner internal affairs department to look into his complaints! This is going to be complicated.
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