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Jim Choate wrote:
And this has what to do with crypto exactly? -- ----------------------Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--------------------------- + ^ + :Surveillance cameras|Passwords are like underwear. You don't /|\ \|/ :aren't security. A |share them, you don't hang them on your/\|/\ <--*-->:camera won't stop a |monitor, or under your keyboard, you \/|\/ /|\ :masked killer, but |don't email them, or put them on a web \|/ + v + :will violate privacy|site, and you must change them very often. --------_sunder_@_sunder_._net_------- http://www.sunder.net ------------
At 12:46 PM -0500 3/12/01, Sunder wrote:
Jim Choate wrote:
And this has what to do with crypto exactly?
Since I filter Choate into my trash folder, I typically don't see his dozens of one-liners giving some URL he feels we should all look at. I do check the contents of my trash folder occasionally. Sometimes to retrieve something I accidentally trashed, sometimes to see what junk has collected there, sometimes to make sure my filters are not filtering something they shouldn't. It's amazing to see the volume of one-line URL pointers Choate spews. --Tim May -- Timothy C. May tcmay@got.net Corralitos, California Political: Co-founder Cypherpunks/crypto anarchy/Cyphernomicon Technical: physics/soft errors/Smalltalk/Squeak/agents/games/Go Personal: b.1951/UCSB/Intel '74-'86/retired/investor/motorcycles/guns
I don't mind so much that he surfs one or two news sites and posts a bunch of urls. I'd wish that: 1. he'd stick to on-topic articles and not give us any random shit he likes 2. he'd post a one or two paragraph quote from the article describing it under the urls. 3. put all the news stories from one site (slashdot for example) in one email as if it were a digest. The way he "helps" us is annoying at best and only one or two notches removed from spam. What pisses me off is that I actually do read slashdot regularly, and don't need twenty or so emails a week with just urls. It's pointless to send them here if they don't generate discussions, and rarely do they ever. Hey, it's great that someone this year will be able to clone humans. It's great that there's some guy up in canada that wants to build a napster clone and use sealand, it's great that there are movie reviews out there, it's great that strides are being made in quantum computing, but none of it is relevant here. Hell, what's next? I enjoy eating out once in a while, Jim, while it might be entertaining for you to post restaurant reviews, it would also be off topic. Well at least he's not emailing us entire web pages javascript and all anymore... I guess the lithium is helping a bit... if only he'd take some of the prozac too. :)
Jim Choate wrote:
At 12:46 PM -0500 3/12/01, Sunder wrote:
And this has what to do with crypto exactly?
Tim May wrote:
It's amazing to see the volume of one-line URL pointers Choate spews.
-- ----------------------Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--------------------------- + ^ + :Surveillance cameras|Passwords are like underwear. You don't /|\ \|/ :aren't security. A |share them, you don't hang them on your/\|/\ <--*-->:camera won't stop a |monitor, or under your keyboard, you \/|\/ /|\ :masked killer, but |don't email them, or put them on a web \|/ + v + :will violate privacy|site, and you must change them very often. --------_sunder_@_sunder_._net_------- http://www.sunder.net ------------
On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Sunder wrote:
I'd wish that:
1. he'd stick to on-topic articles and not give us any random shit he likes
Every post I send is 'on topic' to crypto, civil liberties, or economics.
2. he'd post a one or two paragraph quote from the article describing it under the urls.
Keep wanting.
3. put all the news stories from one site (slashdot for example) in one email as if it were a digest.
Keep wanting.
The way he "helps" us is annoying at best and only one or two notches removed from spam.
What makes you think I'm wanting to 'help' you or whatever 'us' you're refering to.
What pisses me off is that I actually do read slashdot regularly, and don't
You just want to be pissed off, and if you can make me the target so much the better. ____________________________________________________________________ Legislators and Judges are the pimps of modern American society. Police, lawyers, and reporters are their whores. The people are their 'John's'. Democracy is dead. Copyright 2001 All Rights Reserved The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage@ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------
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To those tracking Jim's signature for future prosecution I'd like to state that he's a nut and has no control over what he thinks, writes, posts, declares, corrects, impunes, mocks, refuses, acts on, reacts stupidly to, misses by a mile, mischaracterizes scientifically, rats on, and slaughters with unintended belly laughter. He suffers dementia from a windfall due to Tivoli's buyout by mad cow diseased IBM. Until that day when Jim got a bunch of money he didn't deserve, and it was a glorious moment we all dream of, he was rational and could be approached with safety. Not any more. If there's any desire on the part of authorities to setup a Jim Bell next-in-line, Jim Choate ain't it. He'd never pass the psychological evaluation -- which come to think of it, is a pretty damn smart state to be in these days, so I'm heading up Jim's asshole for protection from the avenging angels who own his heart and mind. Remember the chip the feds planted in Jim, right next to the one put there by IBM -- actually identical devices for assuring obedience even while protesting against the powers that power the chips lucre.
Wow, I got some money? When? From where? You really should get your facts straight or your dose adjusted, John. I was hired on the week IBM bought Tivoli. I didn't get a penny. Never heard of Tivoli until they walked into the local Linux user group I was helping run and asked me to come in for a job interview. Biggest network I'd ever seen was about 50 machines, now 10,000 is itty bitty. Didn't know anything about IBM buying them out, and nobody outside of Tivoli & IBM did either (well some lawyers perhaps). I was working at the local Community College on a 'Semiconductor Technology' course to train folks for the various fab's around Austin. It's only the 4th one to ever get accredited by all the major manufacturers. I was the technical lead, responsible for course content, lab design, etc. Not bad for somebody without a degree I've always felt. Outside of that I ran their books, managed purchasing, and did the occassional tutoring across the full electronics course schedule. I worked there about 2.5 years. Before that I'd worked for Compu-Add, coming on board to do technical support for Desert Storm (though we didn't know it at the time) and their Point-of-Sale line. As to my technical and troubleshooting skills, I'll let anyone who has worked for me or directly with me answer that. Anyone else isn't qualified to even have an opinion. I would like to also add that I'm glad I don't live in NY. Any state that would let somebody like you practice medicine without a license is not someplace I want to even visit. On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, John Young wrote:
To those tracking Jim's signature for future prosecution I'd like to state that he's a nut and has no control over what he thinks, writes, posts, declares, corrects, impunes, mocks, refuses, acts on, reacts stupidly to, misses by a mile, mischaracterizes scientifically, rats on, and slaughters with unintended belly laughter. He suffers dementia from a windfall due to Tivoli's buyout by mad cow diseased IBM. Until that day when Jim got a bunch of money he didn't deserve, and it was a glorious moment we all dream of, he was rational and could be approached with safety. Not any more.
____________________________________________________________________ Legislators and Judges are the pimps of modern American society. Police, lawyers, and reporters are their whores. The people are their 'John's'. Democracy is dead. Copyright 2001 All Rights Reserved The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage@ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------
Nice instigation John, you got him to fold and spill the beans pretty damn quick. :) Now you've got plenty of info on him. The NSA must be very happy as they can begin the anal probe. Expect to see him tied to a tree with a satelite dish (and flames) sticking out of his ass in about a month and he'll be screaming "Why does everyhing in this conversation have to do with things going into or coming out of my ass." I'll rustle up the cows so they can talk to the aliens... :) Jim Choate wrote:
Wow, I got some money? When? From where?
You really should get your facts straight or your dose adjusted, John.
I was hired on the week IBM bought Tivoli. I didn't get a penny. Never heard of Tivoli until they walked into the local Linux user group I was helping run and asked me to come in for a job interview. Biggest network I'd ever seen was about 50 machines, now 10,000 is itty bitty. Didn't know anything about IBM buying them out, and nobody outside of Tivoli & IBM did either (well some lawyers perhaps). I was working at the local Community College on a 'Semiconductor Technology' course to train folks for the various fab's around Austin. It's only the 4th one to ever get accredited by all the major manufacturers. I was the technical lead, responsible for course content, lab design, etc. Not bad for somebody without a degree I've always felt. Outside of that I ran their books, managed purchasing, and did the occassional tutoring across the full electronics course schedule. I worked there about 2.5 years. Before that I'd worked for Compu-Add, coming on board to do technical support for Desert Storm (though we didn't know it at the time) and their Point-of-Sale line.
As to my technical and troubleshooting skills, I'll let anyone who has worked for me or directly with me answer that. Anyone else isn't qualified to even have an opinion.
I would like to also add that I'm glad I don't live in NY. Any state that would let somebody like you practice medicine without a license is not someplace I want to even visit.
-- ----------------------Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--------------------------- + ^ + :Surveillance cameras|Passwords are like underwear. You don't /|\ \|/ :aren't security. A |share them, you don't hang them on your/\|/\ <--*-->:camera won't stop a |monitor, or under your keyboard, you \/|\/ /|\ :masked killer, but |don't email them, or put them on a web \|/ + v + :will violate privacy|site, and you must change them very often. --------_sunder_@_sunder_._net_------- http://www.sunder.net ------------
ATTN HEB Shoppers: The probe will be installed this evening while Jim is bent over inspecting pork butts in the frozen food section at the Central Market HEB on 38th and N. Lamar. I'm sure Jim is looking forward to tonight's 'physical' cypherpunks meeting. Moo, JD, II on 13.03.01 14:08, Sunder at sunder@sunder.net wrote:
Nice instigation John, you got him to fold and spill the beans pretty damn quick. :) Now you've got plenty of info on him. The NSA must be very happy as they can begin the anal probe. Expect to see him tied to a tree with a satelite dish (and flames) sticking out of his ass in about a month and he'll be screaming "Why does everyhing in this conversation have to do with things going into or coming out of my ass."
I'll rustle up the cows so they can talk to the aliens... :)
Jim Choate wrote:
Wow, I got some money? When? From where?
You really should get your facts straight or your dose adjusted, John.
I was hired on the week IBM bought Tivoli. I didn't get a penny. Never heard of Tivoli until they walked into the local Linux user group I was helping run and asked me to come in for a job interview. Biggest network I'd ever seen was about 50 machines, now 10,000 is itty bitty. Didn't know anything about IBM buying them out, and nobody outside of Tivoli & IBM did either (well some lawyers perhaps). I was working at the local Community College on a 'Semiconductor Technology' course to train folks for the various fab's around Austin. It's only the 4th one to ever get accredited by all the major manufacturers. I was the technical lead, responsible for course content, lab design, etc. Not bad for somebody without a degree I've always felt. Outside of that I ran their books, managed purchasing, and did the occassional tutoring across the full electronics course schedule. I worked there about 2.5 years. Before that I'd worked for Compu-Add, coming on board to do technical support for Desert Storm (though we didn't know it at the time) and their Point-of-Sale line.
As to my technical and troubleshooting skills, I'll let anyone who has worked for me or directly with me answer that. Anyone else isn't qualified to even have an opinion.
I would like to also add that I'm glad I don't live in NY. Any state that would let somebody like you practice medicine without a license is not someplace I want to even visit.
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I personally am getting tired of seeing them, particularly since I read Salon and Slashdot pretty religiously... B --- Bryan Strawser, feanor@gondolin.org Personal: http://www.feanor.gondolin.org Professional: http://www.gondolin.org Introducing Loss Prevention Online - The Portal for Loss Prevention Professionals http://www.losspreventiononline.com
-----Original Message----- From: owner-cypherpunks@minder.net [mailto:owner-cypherpunks@minder.net]On Behalf Of Tim May Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 1:18 PM To: cypherpunks@lne.com Subject: Re: Slashdot | 15 Minutes
At 12:46 PM -0500 3/12/01, Sunder wrote:
Jim Choate wrote:
And this has what to do with crypto exactly?
Since I filter Choate into my trash folder, I typically don't see his dozens of one-liners giving some URL he feels we should all look at.
I do check the contents of my trash folder occasionally. Sometimes to retrieve something I accidentally trashed, sometimes to see what junk has collected there, sometimes to make sure my filters are not filtering something they shouldn't.
It's amazing to see the volume of one-line URL pointers Choate spews.
--Tim May -- Timothy C. May tcmay@got.net Corralitos, California Political: Co-founder Cypherpunks/crypto anarchy/Cyphernomicon Technical: physics/soft errors/Smalltalk/Squeak/agents/games/Go Personal: b.1951/UCSB/Intel '74-'86/retired/investor/motorcycles/guns
On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Bryan Strawser wrote:
I personally am getting tired of seeing them, particularly since I read Salon and Slashdot pretty religiously...
Then learn to filter. ____________________________________________________________________ Legislators and Judges are the pimps of modern American society. Police, lawyers, and reporters are their whores. The people are their 'John's'. Democracy is dead. Copyright 2001 All Rights Reserved The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage@ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------
At 6:36 PM -0500 3/12/01, Bryan Strawser wrote:
I personally am getting tired of seeing them, particularly since I read Salon and Slashdot pretty religiously...
You mean you are not also reading The Register, CNET, and Silicon Investor? Following Choate's example, I will start forwarding a dozen or so URLs, every day, of things I find mildly interesting from these sites. Someone else can take care of Raging Bull, EPIC, Macintouch.... --Tim May -- Timothy C. May tcmay@got.net Corralitos, California Political: Co-founder Cypherpunks/crypto anarchy/Cyphernomicon Technical: physics/soft errors/Smalltalk/Squeak/agents/games/Go Personal: b.1951/UCSB/Intel '74-'86/retired/investor/motorcycles/guns
I'd hate to spoil the 'ahah!' for you... On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Sunder wrote:
Jim Choate wrote:
And this has what to do with crypto exactly?
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