-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Morlock Elloi wrote: Faustine wrote:

Any relationship based on desperation or one partner's dysfunctional clingy need is a complete waste of time. So if you seem to be spending a lot of time around women who want to mash you down into a mold of some cartoonish happy- ever-after "ideal", perhaps it's time to look at why you keep choosing and ending up with them. If you were drawn to strong-willed independent women instead, I can assure you that you'd be facing an entirely different spectrum of dysfunctionality. ;)

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The cpunk relevance evades me, but ...

Slim to none, actually. Just my two cents in response to various bitter observations to the effect that all women are money-mad golddiggers hell bent on luring hapless men to their doom in the name of providing for large litters of genetically superior offspring, who eventually nag them to death in the name of changing for "a relationship". Or something.

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The 'relationship' is a product of some need, and classifying that need as clingy or something else is arbitrary and subjective.

Of course. Since when was a value judgment ever anything else?

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You invent 'drawn' as something that is not-clingy-need. Semantic nonsense.

Too bad you seemed to have missed the entire point of the passage: if your relationships are making you bitter and miserable, there's no sense in blaming the other half of the human race for whatever weaknesses of your own cause you to keep seeking out the same old archetypically shitty situations. Proclaiming all "men are x" or "all women are y" as some sort of excuse for why you've proven yourself unfit for human companionship is nothing more than a cop-out. So it seems to me, at any rate. ~Faustine. *** The right to be let alone is indeed the beginning of all freedoms. - --William O. Douglas, Associate Justice, US Supreme Court -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. (Diffie-Helman/DSS-only version) iQA/AwUBPAqlePg5Tuca7bfvEQLZDACffRSyj+BBbaYbYIZvspmsEFZKNZwAn2/O TGNJU1oiUGHRDKiUS5VO3kN3 =KeKr -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----