Ed Gerck, Eva Waskell who publishes The Bell, and another friend of theirs attended a recent Bay Area Cypherpunks meeting. Interesting people, and they added a lot to the discussion. Ed's ideas on certificates and trust are different than, say, Carl Ellison's or the X.509 mafia's or Phil Zimmermann's, but he's not a crank, and it was good having him around. At 05:37 PM 12/14/00, Gil Hamilton wrote:

Robert Guerra forwards:

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---------- Forwarded Message ---------- From: Ed Gerck To: DIGSIG@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU Subject: U.S. Supreme Court vs. Voting Technology

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Just an FYI. I was checking this out when I noticed via WHOIS that www.thebell.net www.safevote.com www.ivta.org [and possibly even NMA.com?] are all apparently self-promotional mouthpieces for this Gerck fellow (formerly of the "Meta-Certificate Group", another self-promotion vehicle) who has shown up on cypherpunks and other crypto/security lists from time to time, usually with somewhat crankish ideas.

Thanks! Bill Bill Stewart, bill.stewart@pobox.com PGP Fingerprint D454 E202 CBC8 40BF 3C85 B884 0ABE 4639