On Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 10:11:32AM -0500, Sunder wrote:

That all depends on your definition of sovereign. After all, "we" put, or at least helped, that monster into power.

Not really, no.

So, while he was our puppet,

He was never out puppet.

he was the good guy,

He was never the good guy, and was never called a good guy by "us". Well, except for the idiots who are now calling for his release, I guess.

and no matter how many he murdered, he was a benevolent leader.

Not really, no.

Now, we'll put a different "democratic" government in place. Of course, it won't be as free as the USA, nor have the same kind of constitution - that would be a problem since we couldn't control it's oil.

If all we wanted was to control its oil we wouldn't try to put a democratic government in place, with or without the quote. Gosh, the oil-conspiracy nutcases are so dumb, it's tiring.

Nothing new, nothing to be surprised about.

Exactly, a bunch of lies from the usual quarters. A stream of revisionist history from useful idiots hell-bent on making it ALL OUR FAULT, ever and ever again. It's a movable feast.

The war on terror itself will go on for as long as the voters will tolerate it, or until it's true goals succeede and it becomes impossible for the voters to do anything but accept it - or be disappeared in the middle of the night... Not much different than in Stalin or Hitler's days.

You don't know much about Stalin's or Hitler's times, do you? -- avva