"Ending States That Support Terrorism"
Anyone have the list of countries that Bush is planning on scheduling for termination? I would imagine Afganistan and Iraq are the first two. Will he toss in Syria, Sudan, and Libya as well? It looks like the game that is being played here, is that all countries are being given an opportunity to pledge unconditional support and cooperation for Bush's "War" against those rendering aid to terrorism, now declared to be the primary focus of his administration, and whoever declines will constitute the enemy. Pakistan has even climbed aboard, in the hopes that we won't drop any bombs on them on our way to Afganistan. Of course, they must prove their loyalty by cutting off Afganistan's oil and gas, and permitting us to base our troops there. Isn't playing these sorts of games with Saudi Arabia, the location of Islam's most sacred sites, the reason Osama bin Laden is mad at the US to begin with? Is this how Hitler started? While all of this is transpiring, a smirking Ariel Sharon, the war criminal elected by acclaimation, will be taking more of the Palestinians' land. So when's the Congress going to outlaw encryption? I assume we'll all be expected to make such small sacrifices for the larger good. We're all supposed to fly American flags for the next 30 days to show our support for all of this. I wonder if they'll be taking names. -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division "Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law"
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 02:36:14PM -0700, Eric Cordian wrote:
So when's the Congress going to outlaw encryption? I assume we'll all be expected to make such small sacrifices for the larger good.
I assume you wrote this before you saw my Wired article on the topic. -Declan
On Thursday, September 13, 2001, at 02:36 PM, Eric Cordian wrote:
Anyone have the list of countries that Bush is planning on scheduling for termination?
I would imagine Afganistan and Iraq are the first two. Will he toss in Syria, Sudan, and Libya as well?
Syria and Libya expressed condemnation of the WTC event, so I expect they looked at the likely upcoming firestorm and decided they'd better sign on with Uncle Sam. Cuba did as well. I think this worsen things for us, because the New World Order is gathering a huge head of steam. Expect to see a worldwide ban on privacy, with Fidel Castro invited to the White House.
It looks like the game that is being played here, is that all countries are being given an opportunity to pledge unconditional support and cooperation for Bush's "War" against those rendering aid to terrorism, now declared to be the primary focus of his administration, and whoever declines will constitute the enemy.
This is exactly how it is looking.
While all of this is transpiring, a smirking Ariel Sharon, the war criminal elected by acclaimation, will be taking more of the Palestinians' land.
"Lebensraum."
So when's the Congress going to outlaw encryption? I assume we'll all be expected to make such small sacrifices for the larger good.
Feinstein, Schumer, Feingold, Lieberman, and all of the other usual suspects are scrambling to repeal what they can of the Constitution. I'm betting, as I said in my last post, that strong unescrowed crypto will be illegal by December 15th. (Not that this would have stopped the WTC cells from planning their attacks in apartments, motel rooms, etc., nor from using the signals they sent over pagers and cell phones. Good old-fashoned codes are impossible to defeat.)
We're all supposed to fly American flags for the next 30 days to show our support for all of this. I wonder if they'll be taking names.
Or noting who is flying them upside down, the symbol of distress. --Tim May
Tim wrote: --------- (Not that this would have stopped the WTC cells from planning their attacks in apartments, motel rooms, etc., nor from using the signals they sent over pagers and cell phones. Good old-fashoned codes are impossible to defeat.) --------- Something must be done about that. How about passing a law that all smoke detectors (already required in hotels and apartments) contain small cameras and microphones for law enforcement access in the defense of the homeland only? Undoubtedly, this modest measure would be a reasonable compromise between liberty and safety. --Lucky, who is presently listening to CNet Radio "The Voice of Technology" calling for a ban on unescrowed encryption without backdoors in the wake of the recent terrorist attacks. http://www.cnet.com/cnettv/0-1519376.html# "You have to know that to gain certain security, you must give up certain rights". Direct quote from the host.
On Thursday, September 13, 2001, at 08:48 PM, Lucky Green wrote:
Tim wrote: --------- (Not that this would have stopped the WTC cells from planning their attacks in apartments, motel rooms, etc., nor from using the signals they sent over pagers and cell phones. Good old-fashoned codes are impossible to defeat.) ---------
Something must be done about that. How about passing a law that all smoke detectors (already required in hotels and apartments) contain small cameras and microphones for law enforcement access in the defense of the homeland only?
Undoubtedly, this modest measure would be a reasonable compromise between liberty and safety.
--Lucky, who is presently listening to CNet Radio "The Voice of Technology" calling for a ban on unescrowed encryption without backdoors in the wake of the recent terrorist attacks. http://www.cnet.com/cnettv/0-1519376.html#
"You have to know that to gain certain security, you must give up certain rights". Direct quote from the host.
This shows how rapidly the freight train has gathered steam. Even the _tech_ reporters, with a few obvious exceptions, are leading the calls for suppressing the Bill of Rights. Be sure to get the name of the host for the files. When this war is over, I expect hundreds of thousands will need to be sent to the wall. --Tim May
Yeah, you thought (most) tech reporters in general were friends of liberty and privacy? Heh. I did TechTV yesterday morning around noon ET. The segment before mine had the host quoting Louis Freeh like our former FBI director was the latest prophet; The segment, of course, was on restricting strong crypto. -Declan On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 08:58:05PM -0700, Tim May wrote:
This shows how rapidly the freight train has gathered steam. Even the _tech_ reporters, with a few obvious exceptions, are leading the calls for suppressing the Bill of Rights.
Be sure to get the name of the host for the files. When this war is over, I expect hundreds of thousands will need to be sent to the wall.
--Tim May
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