I'm not sure I'd go as far as these two, after all one of the reasons the poverty is there is the 'free market' chase for profit. http://www.Kuro5hin.org/?op=displaystory;sid=2001/4/12/125024/271 -- Adapt, Adopt, Improvise! - Anonymous Venimus, Vidimus, Delevimus - 1st Linux Motto, Anonymous Tivoli Certification Group, OSCT James Choate jchoate@tivoli.com Senior Engineer 512-436-1062