Tim, That was very manipulative, and did not achieve much. It has also very little to do with the subject of this mailing list. If anything, you discouraged at least one person I know who became genuinely interested in encryption and PGP as a result of your post. If you had posted an actual David Hamilton photo, even encrypted, you would have put yourself forward, perhaps even bravely, as a test case. You then would really have had a point to argue, having taken a stand. As it turns out, you hid behind a pretty lame scheme, the only object of which seems to have been to make a fool out of as many people as possible. This is not how you accomplish constructive change, Tim. People resent being made to feel stupid, and they certainly will _not_ listen to what you have to say if you are belittling them. I happen to agree with those points you deigned to make in a straightforward manner. But you hid them so well behind trickery that they will go unnoticed. Learn to deal with people, and you'll see they are willing to listen to reasonable arguments. If your parents didn't give you enough attention as a child, don't take it out on the world by trying to get some here... Learn to work _with_ people, not _against_ people, lest within ten years you'll be walking into office buildings with automatic weapons strapped to your body and shooting lawyers... ;) Michael
"Perry E. Metzger" <pmetzger@lehman.com> writes:
That was very manipulative, and did not achieve much.
I wholely disagree. Tim's post to alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.children was a valuable exercise even given its limitations.
I agree.. what if he posted it as some silly program in one of the sources groups, encrypted and all, with a description as something almost no one would want? then the worst that would happen is people flaming him for encrypting it.. that would be a way to go for a real post to convey information.. we could always create an alt.too.many.secrets (obligatory documentary movie reference =]) to post things to where there is a large audience, but for an audience of people who care about such issues, as opposed to a normal post which joe random user could argue with everyone without knowing the difference between a pgp encrypted and uuencoded file. the other issue is that people will think what they want to think if they're uninformed, such as all of the people who flamed Tim for posting what's basically a worthless message, just that those people who flamed him didn't like the name of the group he posted it in.. for all we know, he could've posted his local /etc/hosts. -- Mike Sherwood internet: mike@EGFABT.ORG uucp: ...!sgiblab!egfabt!mike
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Michael Ross
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Perry E. Metzger