RE: True Names: And the Opening of the Cyberspace Frontier
[Redundant/inappropriate lists elided]. The page at Amazon. COM claims that the book in question will ship in December of this year. I seem to recall having read announcements in years past that the book would ship in the respective years. Methinks that a mere claim of a future ship date in 2001 may be considered insufficient proof that the condition of the wager has been met by at least one of the parties to the wager. Just my $0.02, --Lucky, who will order the book once it ships. Which unfortunately has yet to come to pass.
-----Original Message----- From: owner-coderpunks@toad.com [mailto:owner-coderpunks@toad.com] On Behalf Of R. A. Hettinga Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 5:18 AM To: cryptography@wasabisystems.com; coderpunks@toad.com; dcsb@ai.mit.edu; e$@vmeng.com; mac-crypto@vmeng.com; Digital Bearer Settlement List Subject: True Names: And the Opening of the Cyberspace Frontier
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Status: U Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 23:45:04 -0500 To: cypherpunks@lne.com From: Matthew Gaylor <freematt@coil.com> Subject: Order Now: True Names: And the Opening of the Cyberspace Frontier Sender: owner-cypherpunks@lne.com
[Note from Matt: I made a small wager in palladium that Vinge's True Names: And the Opening of the Cyberspace Frontier would be available to order prior to Jan. 1, 2002 with a well known Cypherpunk. And I won. Acct# 101893.]
At 3:03 AM -0700 8/13/01, Well known Cypherpunk wrote:
Subject: Re: BTW- I'll bet you...
OK - Done deal, if you'll accept the modification that it be orderable and shippable by Amazon or other on-line bookstore within a week after that.
<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0312862075/ref=pd_bxgy_text_1/ 103-1236763-4454202> True Names: And the Opening of the Cyberspace Frontier by Vernor Vinge, James Frenkel (Editor) List Price: $14.95 Our Price: $11.96 You Save: $2.99 (20%) This item will be published in December 2001. You may order it now and we will ship it to you when it arrives. See larger photo This item qualifies for free shipping on orders over $99! Click for details Great Buy Buy True Names: And the Opening of the Cyberspace Fron... with The Collected Stories of Vernor Vinge today! Total List Price: $42.90 Buy Together Today: $31.52 You Save: $11.38 Paperback - 384 pages (December 2001) Tor Books; ISBN: 0312862075 Amazon.com Sales Rank: 28,271 ************************************************************************ ** Subscribe to Freematt's Alerts: Pro-Individual Rights Issues Send a blank message to: freematt@coil.com with the words subscribe FA on the subject line. List is private and moderated (7-30 messages per week) Matthew Gaylor, (614) 313-5722 ICQ: 106212065 Archived at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fa/ ************************************************************************ ** --- end forwarded text -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah@ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'
I'm supposed to get a review copy mailed Monday. We'll see. -Declan On Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 09:59:24PM -0800, Lucky Green wrote:
[Redundant/inappropriate lists elided].
The page at Amazon. COM claims that the book in question will ship in December of this year. I seem to recall having read announcements in years past that the book would ship in the respective years. Methinks that a mere claim of a future ship date in 2001 may be considered insufficient proof that the condition of the wager has been met by at least one of the parties to the wager.
Just my $0.02, --Lucky, who will order the book once it ships. Which unfortunately has yet to come to pass.
-----Original Message----- From: owner-coderpunks@toad.com [mailto:owner-coderpunks@toad.com] On Behalf Of R. A. Hettinga Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 5:18 AM To: cryptography@wasabisystems.com; coderpunks@toad.com; dcsb@ai.mit.edu; e$@vmeng.com; mac-crypto@vmeng.com; Digital Bearer Settlement List Subject: True Names: And the Opening of the Cyberspace Frontier
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Status: U Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 23:45:04 -0500 To: cypherpunks@lne.com From: Matthew Gaylor <freematt@coil.com> Subject: Order Now: True Names: And the Opening of the Cyberspace Frontier Sender: owner-cypherpunks@lne.com
[Note from Matt: I made a small wager in palladium that Vinge's True Names: And the Opening of the Cyberspace Frontier would be available to order prior to Jan. 1, 2002 with a well known Cypherpunk. And I won. Acct# 101893.]
At 3:03 AM -0700 8/13/01, Well known Cypherpunk wrote:
Subject: Re: BTW- I'll bet you...
OK - Done deal, if you'll accept the modification that it be orderable and shippable by Amazon or other on-line bookstore within a week after that.
<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0312862075/ref=pd_bxgy_text_1/ 103-1236763-4454202>
True Names: And the Opening of the Cyberspace Frontier by Vernor Vinge, James Frenkel (Editor)
List Price: $14.95 Our Price: $11.96 You Save: $2.99 (20%) This item will be published in December 2001. You may order it now and we will ship it to you when it arrives. See larger photo
This item qualifies for free shipping on orders over $99! Click for details Great Buy Buy True Names: And the Opening of the Cyberspace Fron... with The Collected Stories of Vernor Vinge today! Total List Price: $42.90 Buy Together Today: $31.52 You Save: $11.38
Paperback - 384 pages (December 2001) Tor Books; ISBN: 0312862075
Amazon.com Sales Rank: 28,271
************************************************************************ ** Subscribe to Freematt's Alerts: Pro-Individual Rights Issues Send a blank message to: freematt@coil.com with the words subscribe FA on the subject line. List is private and moderated (7-30 messages per week) Matthew Gaylor, (614) 313-5722 ICQ: 106212065 Archived at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fa/ ************************************************************************ **
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-- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah@ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'
On 25 November 01, Lucky Green wrote:
The page at Amazon. COM claims that the book in question will ship in December of this year. I seem to recall having read announcements in years past that the book would ship in the respective years. Methinks that a mere claim of a future ship date in 2001 may be considered insufficient proof that the condition of the wager has been met by at least one of the parties to the wager.
I've had it on order from Amazon since December 1998. At the time, Amazon listed it as shipping in February 1999. Every few months since then, they've moved the date ahead a few months. I won't believe it till I have a copy in my hands. -- Todd Larason | The gene pool has no lifeguard. 3500238865/p | UIN: 6019543 | AIM: FxyT1ts |
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