Re: US Warships jamming Lebanon Internet
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On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 6:14 AM, Eugen Leitl <eugen@leitl.org> wrote:
... Another reason to not rely on radio for your LAN/WAN in times of Aegis cruisers passing by... ;)
unless it's ultra-wide band with orthogonal / turbo coding. USA Navy is annoyed they can't jam those effectively ... yet.
Ultra wide band probably jams their stuff too. Hey...Wired story today about the US government forcing internet down the throats of a hostage populace. But I'd sure love to see a less, well, edit-able and decentralized native emergency internet. WiMax seems a nice candidate, but you have to hit the wireline somewhere. -TD
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 14:26:12 -0800 Subject: Re: US Warships jamming Lebanon Internet From: coderman@gmail.com To: eugen@leitl.org CC: cypherpunks@al-qaeda.net
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 6:14 AM, Eugen Leitl <eugen@leitl.org> wrote:
... Another reason to not rely on radio for your LAN/WAN in times of Aegis cruisers passing by... ;)
unless it's ultra-wide band with orthogonal / turbo coding. USA Navy is annoyed they can't jam those effectively ... yet.
Hey...Wired story today about the US government forcing internet down the throats of a hostage populace.
I thought you meant ARPA foie gras-ing the US then the globalism. So here we are stuffed, helplessly RAMed into believing there is a way back to free range quacking without minutely controlled AFLACing. Ah, the dream of winning by coding, to hell with politics. So why is Cryptography mail stuck at October 2010? Perry in jail again? Speaking of jail, this time there have been no letters from Jim Bell. He may be under a clampdown. Or we are. All of us stuffed. Speaking of coding, what's the latest on open source crypto, has it been co-opted like the US masterspy claims, or disinfos?
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 5:33 AM, John Young <jya@pipeline.com> wrote:
... Speaking of coding, what's the latest on open source crypto, has it been co-opted like the US masterspy claims, or disinfos?
the latest is same as it ever was: cheaper, easier, more effective to end-run 'round the crypto bits and attack implementation, human factors. never a shortage of serious vulns there... (at least MITRE and NSA and FIWC and everyone else are finally admitting we all get hacked no matter the protections - just a matter of when, how much effort, how deep, and how persistent the penetration) on the ITAR side, haven't heard any ramblings about digital crypto munitions. who knows when/if they'll pick up that truncheon again... (i know they reserved the right to regulate, but has anyone made any noise about it?)
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