-- On 5 Aug 2001, at 14:17, Sampo Syreeni wrote:

"Conforming to international treaties" *is* the hip way to circumvent the constitution.

As we recently saw in the money laundering treaties, different nations have rather different interpretations of international treaties. Some time back the US government, in flagrant defiance of the first amendment, but in accord with international treaties, prohibited the internet publication of drug manufacture information. Sites were closed down, only to pop up again in different jurisdictions. The sites were simply zipped up, the zip files floated around a while, then found new homes. If they cannot stop sites that give information on manufacture of drugs, they have lost and we have won. Similarly, as I pointed out to some nutty nyms who claim to be lawyers, if they cannot shut down child pornography on usenet, they cannot shut down alt.anonymous.messages. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG zW4bx+3/mu5osmKYwXYF48PIBXO/A5OJWaqVupwo 43nVaMDSSAYnIC9+/uyWJJWEH4c+OUEMW0CZ8sYL8