On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Dirk Bruere <dirk.bruere@gmail.com> wrote:

In which case TOR is going to be a very minority interest, except for very occasional use. In fact, I cannot think of any instance where I have needed such anonymity over the past decade

Please keep in mind the following things: An increasing number of world powers (i.e., goverments) are deploying hardware at both the ISP and the national levels of communications infrastructure which are capable of monitoring the traffic of thousands of people in realtime, 24 hours a day, seven days a week, year 'round. There is no shortage of manufacturers of this hardware and software: http://werebuild.telecomix.org/wiki/Blue_cabinet Surveillance deployment in the Middle East is on the mind of many, chiefly because they think it can't happen where they live. It already has happened where they live. The country I live in - the United States - deployed this functionality over a decade ago and has gone to incredible lengths to keep it not only unaccountable but safe from any sort of oversight or legal interdiction. The only reason this is known is a pair of whistleblowers who are now nearly as hot targets as Julian Assange is these days. Depending on whom you talk to, Great Britain either has plans in the works for, or already has implemented the Interception Modernisation Programme, which is designed to carry out exactly the same tasks for the same reasons. Same with Sweden, and there is absolutely no reason at all to think that other countries did not do precisely the same thing years ago. This equipment's been on the market for over a decade to whomever can pay for it. We are attempting to bootstrap a transnational social state, unbound by political or geographic boundries, making use of and pushing the envelope of bleeding edge technology, and functioning more or less in parallel with everything else. That is not only highly unusual, but in a time of amazing paranoia and fear it is extremely suspicious. By "amazing paranoia and fear," I refer to the following groups that have been investigated (and occasionally infiltrated) because they are considered potential terrorist threats: Vegan cooking classes in California, the War Resisters League, Code Pink, the Rhode Island Community Coalition for Peace, Food Not Bombs (which is de facto illegal in Florida now), the People's Summit (held in 2008), the Free Mumia Abu-Jamal Coalition, a couple of pro-Palestinian organizers (I have an interesting video squirreled away about that), the Critical Mass Bike Ride, the New York sports club Extreme-Goers, anti-death penalty groups in Maryland... To think that we're not on someone's radar already is folly; we already are whether or not the humans in the same orbit as the technology are aware of it yet. <waves to Ft. Meade> If we don't start following through with our plans now, pretty soon it won't matter. -- The Doctor [412/724/301/703] [ZS] https://drwho.virtadpt.net/ "I am everywhere." -- -- Zero State mailing list: http://groups.google.com/group/DoctrineZero ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE