use on screen keyboards using mouse action or use non-bios routines that remap key codes. If you need this level of security you probably need to look at the whole environment and do some serious thinking. If you use standard keyboards then the scancodes can be intercepted, if you have standard PC's with non-custom OS then almost anything can be sniffed out. (The moot list is in need of any good advice on this, basic discussion already covered) cya, Andrew...

-----Original Message----- From: PFSanta Claus [SMTP:pf_santa@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 5:06 AM To: cej@idirect.ca Cc: cypherpunks@toad.com; waste@zor.hut.fi; iufo@world.std.com Subject:

Hi, I came across your addies in a search off ask Jeeves and thought perhaps due to the way your interests run you might be up on this topic. I'm a Sr.

Support Analyst for a large vendor and recently was asked by one of my casual internet contacts if there was a way to prevent a "keyboard logging" surveillance program from prevailing on their system and reporting the goings on from their keyboard. In an effort to be helpful, I set about my normal pattern of research and found that there seems to be a ton of info promoting various products, yet there is virtually nothing I could find which offers any realistic or reliable countermeasures that can be taken to prevent someone from logging the output from your keyboard. Even the hackers seem to think it isn't a threat to anyone's privacy. Weird... So anyway, all I'm asking is that should you know where I can find resources that assist me in defeating such software (especially if it's undetected), I would gratefully accept any guidance you could offer. That's all I need, I won't take anymore of your time. Peace, Tom (aka Santa)

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