Slashdot | Recording Police Misconduct is Illegal
http://slashdot.org/articles/01/07/14/0834224.shtml -- -- ____________________________________________________________________ Nature and Nature's laws lay hid in night: God said, "Let Tesla be", and all was light. B.A. Behrend The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage@ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------
Sorry Choate, didn't catch your "analysis" in time. ;) Your subj line is descriptive, but somewhat misleading. ~Aimee
-----Original Message----- From: owner-cypherpunks@lne.com [mailto:owner-cypherpunks@lne.com]On Behalf Of Jim Choate Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 6:47 PM To: cypherpunks@einstein.ssz.com; hell@einstein.ssz.com Subject: Slashdot | Recording Police Misconduct is Illegal
There's not mine. On Sat, 14 Jul 2001, Aimee Farr wrote:
Sorry Choate, didn't catch your "analysis" in time. ;)
Your subj line is descriptive, but somewhat misleading.
~Aimee
-----Original Message----- From: owner-cypherpunks@lne.com [mailto:owner-cypherpunks@lne.com]On Behalf Of Jim Choate Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 6:47 PM To: cypherpunks@einstein.ssz.com; hell@einstein.ssz.com Subject: Slashdot | Recording Police Misconduct is Illegal
-- ____________________________________________________________________ Nature and Nature's laws lay hid in night: God said, "Let Tesla be", and all was light. B.A. Behrend The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage@ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------
I followed a link in the /. thread to http://policeabuse.com , highly recommended. They track episodes of police abuse, and do some quality-control on the procedures police departments to handle (or avoid) complaints. They contend that taping police (video and/or audio) is legal in most states, in most circumstances. An alleged lawyer posted to the /. discussion, saying the Mass. story the thread is about was actually narrower than simply "recording police is illegal." This is a good opportunity to urge cp's who haven't yet, to read David Brin's "Transparent Society." It's pie in the sky, but essentially advocates having cameras everywhere, so that anyone anywhere can tap into a video feed. -- Greg On Sat, Jul 14, 2001 at 07:16:36PM -0500, Aimee Farr wrote:
Sorry Choate, didn't catch your "analysis" in time. ;)
Your subj line is descriptive, but somewhat misleading.
~Aimee
-----Original Message----- From: owner-cypherpunks@lne.com [mailto:owner-cypherpunks@lne.com]On Behalf Of Jim Choate Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 6:47 PM To: cypherpunks@einstein.ssz.com; hell@einstein.ssz.com Subject: Slashdot | Recording Police Misconduct is Illegal
I'm only catching up on this conversation now, but coincidentally, I asked the Feds during a "press conference" at Defcon what they'd think about such a project. The federal agents who showed up were anything but receptive at my suggestion that all interviews and correspondence be recorded via videocam etc. and released after the trial was over, at the latest. Hah. -Declan On Sat, Jul 14, 2001 at 11:13:07PM -0400, Greg Newby wrote:
I followed a link in the /. thread to http://policeabuse.com , highly recommended. They track episodes of police abuse, and do some quality-control on the procedures police departments to handle (or avoid) complaints.
They contend that taping police (video and/or audio) is legal in most states, in most circumstances. An alleged lawyer posted to the /. discussion, saying the Mass. story the thread is about was actually narrower than simply "recording police is illegal."
This is a good opportunity to urge cp's who haven't yet, to read David Brin's "Transparent Society." It's pie in the sky, but essentially advocates having cameras everywhere, so that anyone anywhere can tap into a video feed.
-- Greg
On Sat, Jul 14, 2001 at 07:16:36PM -0500, Aimee Farr wrote:
Sorry Choate, didn't catch your "analysis" in time. ;)
Your subj line is descriptive, but somewhat misleading.
~Aimee
-----Original Message----- From: owner-cypherpunks@lne.com [mailto:owner-cypherpunks@lne.com]On Behalf Of Jim Choate Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 6:47 PM To: cypherpunks@einstein.ssz.com; hell@einstein.ssz.com Subject: Slashdot | Recording Police Misconduct is Illegal
On Sat, 14 Jul 2001, Greg Newby wrote:
This is a good opportunity to urge cp's who haven't yet, to read David Brin's "Transparent Society." It's pie in the sky, but essentially advocates having cameras everywhere, so that anyone anywhere can tap into a video feed.
Brin's scenario is symmetric. This is not what we're getting. What we're getting (surprise, surprise) is that recording of the public is allright but not recording *by* the public. Mann's "shooting back" is rapidly getting outlawed. -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://www.lrz.de/~ui22204/">leitl</a> ______________________________________________________________ ICBMTO : N48 10'07'' E011 33'53'' http://www.lrz.de/~ui22204 57F9CFD3: ED90 0433 EB74 E4A9 537F CFF5 86E7 629B 57F9 CFD3
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