[cs/0305035] P is not equal to NP (fwd)
http://xyz.lanl.gov/abs/cs.CC/0305035 -- ____________________________________________________________________ We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. Criswell, "Plan 9 from Outer Space" ravage@ssz.com jchoate@open-forge.org www.ssz.com www.open-forge.org --------------------------------------------------------------------
Jim Choate forwards:
Subject: [cs/0305035] P is not equal to NP (fwd) http://xyz.lanl.gov/abs/cs.CC/0305035
P = NP, therefore, the paper contains at least one error. -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division "Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law"
On Sat, 24 May 2003, Eric Cordian wrote:
Jim Choate forwards:
Subject: [cs/0305035] P is not equal to NP (fwd) http://xyz.lanl.gov/abs/cs.CC/0305035
P = NP, therefore, the paper contains at least one error.
Really, where's the proof? -- ____________________________________________________________________ We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. Criswell, "Plan 9 from Outer Space" ravage@ssz.com jchoate@open-forge.org www.ssz.com www.open-forge.org --------------------------------------------------------------------
Jim Choate writes:
Subject: [cs/0305035] P is not equal to NP (fwd) http://xyz.lanl.gov/abs/cs.CC/0305035
P = NP, therefore, the paper contains at least one error.
Really, where's the proof?
It is left as an exercise. -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division "Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law"
On Sat, 24 May 2003, Eric Cordian wrote:
Jim Choate writes:
Subject: [cs/0305035] P is not equal to NP (fwd) http://xyz.lanl.gov/abs/cs.CC/0305035
P = NP, therefore, the paper contains at least one error.
Really, where's the proof?
It is left as an exercise.
In other words you don't have one. -- ____________________________________________________________________ We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. Criswell, "Plan 9 from Outer Space" ravage@ssz.com jchoate@open-forge.org www.ssz.com www.open-forge.org --------------------------------------------------------------------
On Saturday 24 May 2003 22:47, Jim Choate wrote:
On Sat, 24 May 2003, Eric Cordian wrote:
Jim Choate forwards:
Subject: [cs/0305035] P is not equal to NP (fwd) http://xyz.lanl.gov/abs/cs.CC/0305035
P = NP, therefore, the paper contains at least one error.
Really, where's the proof?
I have discovered a truly remarkable proof which this email is too small to contain. -- Steve Furlong Computer Condottiere Have GNU, Will Travel If someone is going to use their weapons to protect their rights, [it] makes me nervous that they have these weapons at all!" -- Rep. Henry Waxman
On Sat, 24 May 2003, Steve Furlong wrote:
I have discovered a truly remarkable proof which this email is too small to contain.
And I have a proof to the contrary that will fit in this email. Had you a proof you would be $1M richer, since your not, you don't. -- ____________________________________________________________________ We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. Criswell, "Plan 9 from Outer Space" ravage@ssz.com jchoate@open-forge.org www.ssz.com www.open-forge.org --------------------------------------------------------------------
On Sunday 25 May 2003 00:54, Jim Choate wrote:
On Sat, 24 May 2003, Steve Furlong wrote:
I have discovered a truly remarkable proof which this email is too small to contain.
And I have a proof to the contrary that will fit in this email.
Had you a proof you would be $1M richer, since your not, you don't.
Jim, is it possible that an amazing polymath such as yourself does not recognize the teaser associated with Fermat's last theorem? -- Steve Furlong Computer Condottiere Have GNU, Will Travel If someone is going to use their weapons to protect their rights, [it] makes me nervous that they have these weapons at all!" -- Rep. Henry Waxman
Steve Furlong writes:
Jim, is it possible that an amazing polymath such as yourself does not recognize the teaser associated with Fermat's last theorem?
Perhaps on Choate Prime, a parallel planet similar to ours in many respects, but differing in certain fundamental physical and mathematical laws, Fermat never wrote his famous comment in the margin of the book. Unlikely, you may say, but no more unlikely than having the fundamental structure of complexity itself illuminated for us by a civil servant working for the Social Security Administration, in his spare time. We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming. Spam. Speaking of Spam, I created a Yahoo mail account, and subscribed it to minder. Yahoo's SpamGuard(tm) does a pretty good job of filtering most of the drek into the bulk mail folder, with no false positives. Nigerian banking letters, and occasional other legitimate-at-first-glance things still make into regular mail, but the spew of Viagra/Penis Enlargement/You're PRe-Approved!/Watch me massage my twat on the Web/Hot teens with farm animals!! posts is largely abated. Posts from Choate Prime can also be filtered into a separate folder for later enjoyment. -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division "Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law"
On Sun, 25 May 2003, Steve Furlong wrote:
Jim, is it possible that an amazing polymath such as yourself does not recognize the teaser associated with Fermat's last theorem?
I recognized it, it's just not as funny as your press releases would lead one to believe. -- ____________________________________________________________________ We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. Criswell, "Plan 9 from Outer Space" ravage@ssz.com jchoate@open-forge.org www.ssz.com www.open-forge.org --------------------------------------------------------------------
On Saturday, May 24, 2003, at 08:18 PM, Steve Furlong wrote:
On Saturday 24 May 2003 22:47, Jim Choate wrote:
On Sat, 24 May 2003, Eric Cordian wrote:
Jim Choate forwards:
Subject: [cs/0305035] P is not equal to NP (fwd) http://xyz.lanl.gov/abs/cs.CC/0305035
P = NP, therefore, the paper contains at least one error.
Really, where's the proof?
I have discovered a truly remarkable proof which this email is too small to contain.
A rather elliptic demonstration of your wiles. BTW, the crank paper was already withdrawn "by the author" at the LANL site by the time I went to look at less than an hour ago. This is a good example of where a simple reputation rating graph would work well...not just "thumbs up" or "thumbs down" or "12 of 37 readers found this review useful" (a la Amazon's method), but a system where it matters that Andrew Wiles found the paper uninteresting but does not matter (to most) that Ludwig Plutonium was enthralled by it. (Actually, safest for all to have only positive comments, or lack of them, rather than invite the lawyer vultures to the party by having some sensitive soul feel "libeled" by a negative rating.) --Tim May "Dogs can't conceive of a group of cats without an alpha cat." --David Honig, on the Cypherpunks list, 2001-11
From: "Tim May" <timcmay@got.net>
BTW, the crank paper was already withdrawn "by the author" at the LANL site by the time I went to look at less than an hour ago.
Versions 1 and 2 are still up. http://xyz.lanl.gov/abs/cs/0305035v2 His employer is poor at math, too. Or maybe he just gets SSA disability checks. "Disclaimer: This article was authored by Craig Alan Feinstein in his private capacity. No official support or endorsement by the Social Security Administration or the United States is intended nor should be inferred."
On Sat, 24 May 2003, Tim May wrote:
A rather elliptic demonstration of your wiles.
Tim, go back to sleep.
BTW, the crank paper was already withdrawn "by the author" at the LANL site by the time I went to look at less than an hour ago.
'Crank'? Where's your proof? Have you actually seen the paper? Didn't think so. -- ____________________________________________________________________ We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. Criswell, "Plan 9 from Outer Space" ravage@ssz.com jchoate@open-forge.org www.ssz.com www.open-forge.org --------------------------------------------------------------------
Tim writes:
BTW, the crank paper was already withdrawn "by the author" at the LANL site by the time I went to look at less than an hour ago.
Even the abstract is obviously wrong. -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division "Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law"
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