hey mattd, you really should use better manners, I personally have gotten tired of reading your drivel, accordingly you have started to suffer the same fate as detweiler, cohen, vulis and others. Hoped you liked the little procmail thingie, our former resident book author, bill arnold loved it, As well as the other version which outed all of his postings directly to his supervisors in the school system. havent seen old Bill for about a couple of years now.:) with malice aforthought anonymous tentacle #69 p.s. some of us only watch, wait and strike