Re: HOWTO Build a Nuclear Device
On Friday, November 16, 2001, at 10:43 PM, baptista@pccf.net wrote:
On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, Tim May wrote:
Gold is malleable AND is denser than steel.
Uranium is NOT malleable AND is denser than steel.
Incorrect. Uranium is an actinide series element. It is a hard silver almost white substance which is both malleable and ductile. Of course this does not imply you should use it as a replacement for duck tape. Also like gold it has a luster when polished.
Uranium is not malleable in the same way either gold or silver are. Nearly all metals are malleable to some extent (in that they don't shatter when subjected to shear forces), but I was responding to your "beat the metal in a stainless steel bowl" idea. Good luck on beat U this way! A chart of the rigidity moduli for the elements gives a good idea of why U is not normally considered very malleable: http://www.webelements.com/webelements/properties/text/image- intensity/rigidity-modulus.html Also, I don't get what you mean by saying it has a luster when polished. Yeah, all metals do..until they oxidize/tarnish/anodize. The chunks of uranium I used to work with were pure metallic...and dark grey/black.
--Tim May "Stupidity is not a sin, the victim can't help being stupid. But stupidity is the only universal crime; the sentence is death, there is no appeal, and execution is carried out automatically and without pity." --Robert A. Heinlein
Now - i've replied to you below - but I think were missing the point of the post. So i'll repeat - it's easy to do harm when you have the will to die to rally your cause - as we have seen on sept 11. and i find it regrettable that conditions exist in which people use extreme methods to focus the people of this planet on the fact that western governments are basically evil. Now the remainder of my reply is not much more then having a physics discussion - which i think is not the point - but -- On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, Tim May wrote:
Uranium is not malleable in the same way either gold or silver are.
I said it was malleable - it can be worked. maybe not the same way or gold or silver - but as you can see from the periodic table it is malleable. I personally have never worked it. But i have seen a few pelets in my lifetime.
Nearly all metals are malleable to some extent (in that they don't shatter when subjected to shear forces), but I was responding to your "beat the metal in a stainless steel bowl" idea. Good luck on beat U this way!
Possible - never build one myself. I would assume that if it is harder to work then gold - then just get very thick stanless steel bowls. I'm sure you'd need a few trials to figure it out.
A chart of the rigidity moduli for the elements gives a good idea of why U is not normally considered very malleable:
http://www.webelements.com/webelements/properties/text/image- intensity/rigidity-modulus.html
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Also, I don't get what you mean by saying it has a luster when polished. Yeah, all metals do..until they oxidize/tarnish/anodize.
just what it means - so your right - it shares that characteristic with other metals.
The chunks of uranium I used to work with were pure metallic...and dark grey/black.
sounds unrefined or badly oxidized. I've never seen chunks of uranium. Was this in it's unrefined state. What was it exactly. Pitchblende? regards joe -- The dot.GOD Registry, Limited http://www.dot-god.com/
At 11:56 PM 11/16/2001 -0800, Tim May wrote:
Nearly all metals are malleable to some extent (in that they don't shatter when subjected to shear forces), but I was responding to your "beat the metal in a stainless steel bowl" idea. Good luck on beat U this way!
Isn't a plowshare a bit more appropriate thing to beat it into? :-)
On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, Bill Stewart wrote:
At 11:56 PM 11/16/2001 -0800, Tim May wrote:
Nearly all metals are malleable to some extent (in that they don't shatter when subjected to shear forces), but I was responding to your "beat the metal in a stainless steel bowl" idea. Good luck on beat U this way!
Isn't a plowshare a bit more appropriate thing to beat it into? :-)
exactly. now how can we achive that. like everyone else - i love the show. sex is better. the prices are dropping. so i can't really complain from the consumers point of view. however i am a human being and i do think it's time we get our demented politicians to stop this crap once and for all. so how to do this bill. i personally think we should maybe make laws to hang politicians. start hanging them petty crimes they commit against us - i.e. environmental polution and we can work up from there. but i'm a bit of a radical and am willing to listen to other options. anyone have ideas. regards joe -- The dot.GOD Registry, Limited http://www.dot-god.com/
At 01:06 AM 11/17/01 -0800, Bill Stewart wrote:
At 11:56 PM 11/16/2001 -0800, Tim May wrote:
Nearly all metals are malleable to some extent (in that they don't shatter when subjected to shear forces), but I was responding to your "beat the metal in a stainless steel bowl" idea. Good luck on beat U this way!
Isn't a plowshare a bit more appropriate thing to beat it into? :-)
Those who beat their uranium into plowshares will plow for those who don't. ;) Reese
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