Re: Idea: The ultimate CD/DVD auditing tool (meow)
At 11:45 AM 7/9/03 -0700, Mike Rosing wrote:
On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
Actually I thought humans are insensitive to phase relations, modulo inter-aural timing at low frequencies for spatial location. Perhaps that is what you meant? But spatial location isn't the same as the frequency-fetishing audiophiles go for. To do that well you need casts of the outer ear too.
No, if you put 2 clicks out that are 10 usec's apart on right and left, most people can pick out which side came first. 90% of the time anyway.
Yes this is for localization ---clicks are broadband, you need to identify which freq components are used. I still think humans can't discriminate the phase of a tone. In fact, MP3s use this to cut bits.
You doing owl-type studies on auditory localization? Audio-visual mapping and plasticity? Making the cats wear funky glasses?
Yup. they sew coils into their eyes. For humans they use contacts :-)
PETA is definitly a problem :-)
Gaak. I was thinking prism-glasses maybe bolted on that translate the vis field. Its ok for undergrads so its ok for cats. After the experiments, the cats will be ok, as I assume they're sufficiently plastic, unless you do brain staining on them. :-( Or your policy is the Tim McVeigh treatment. Cool stuff, though my domestic feline wants to know where you live. PS: have you identified the "can opener sound" brain-center yet? ---- Cats manage biometrics and reputation better than most human systems..
On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
Yes this is for localization ---clicks are broadband, you need to identify which freq components are used. I still think humans can't discriminate the phase of a tone. In fact, MP3s use this to cut bits.
They can tell relative phase, but it takes a lot of training.
After the experiments, the cats will be ok, as I assume they're sufficiently plastic, unless you do brain staining on them. :-( Or your policy is the Tim McVeigh treatment.
both. They spend a year training the cats, then a year or 2 collecting data, then brain stain, then vaporize. Each cat is worth about $1M when it's all done, and it's got a lot of skull missing while it's alive. But it's well protected with a lot of aluminum and epoxy :-)
Cool stuff, though my domestic feline wants to know where you live.
PS: have you identified the "can opener sound" brain-center yet?
I think you better keep it far away! And no, they don't play with higher order systems. The low level stuff is hard enough!!
Cats manage biometrics and reputation better than most human systems..
:-) Patience, persistence, truth, Dr. mike
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