"bespectacled, nerdly remailer operators"
On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, Nomen Nescio wrote:
Right, ninja troops carrying away bespectacled, nerdly remailer operators. Here's a better fantasy. They'll hire $1000/night superhookers and seduce the remailer operators into giving up their keys. Both have about equal chances of reality.
Pictures of three of these bespectacled, nerdly remailer operators: http://www.melontraffickers.com/pics/DC8_Lucky_BDU_4.jpg http://www.melontraffickers.com/pics/rabbiGoneNuts.jpeg http://www.melontraffickers.com/pics/DC8_noise_and_Lucky_hauling_hardware.jp... Clearly individuals are enemies of the state. Expect the pictures above to be broadcast and rebroadcast on the evening news after the SWAT teams eliminate this threat to the sheeple. Expect similar photos of other remailer operators, Photoshop touch-ups used liberally if required.
Anon wrote: On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, Nomen Nescio wrote:
Right, ninja troops carrying away bespectacled, nerdly remailer operators. Here's a better fantasy. They'll hire $1000/night superhookers and seduce the remailer operators into giving up their keys. Both have about equal chances of reality.
Pictures of three of these bespectacled, nerdly remailer operators: [Excellent pictures of Cypherpunks lawfully exercising their constitutional duties elided]. I would like to use this opportunity to again encourage any Cypherpunks so inclined to please sign the photo on my attached PGP key. 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-- On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, Nomen Nescio wrote:
Right, ninja troops carrying away bespectacled, nerdly remailer operators. Here's a better fantasy. They'll hire $1000/night superhookers and seduce the remailer operators into giving up their keys. Both have about equal chances of reality.
On 14 Sep 2001, at 23:30, Anonymous wrote:
Pictures of three of these bespectacled, nerdly remailer operators:
http://www.melontraffickers.com/pics/DC8_Lucky_BDU_4.jpg http://www.melontraffickers.com/pics/rabbiGoneNuts.jpeg http://www.melontraffickers.com/pics/DC8_noise_and_Lucky_hauling_hardware.jp...
By and large, ninja style raids on remailer operators might be a poor idea. I suggest that Aimee's friends should try to obtain and present a search warrant first. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG PFUrCv6evJRB7Gk3g2/972Wz8AZcF3BMKb7tdg1T 4wV/6yDKveRPljJJ39kP5pXMViuQnbLvuZmP2hQvx
On Sat, 15 Sep 2001 jamesd@echeque.com wrote:
On 14 Sep 2001, at 23:30, Anonymous wrote:
Pictures of three of these bespectacled, nerdly remailer operators:
http://www.melontraffickers.com/pics/DC8_Lucky_BDU_4.jpg http://www.melontraffickers.com/pics/rabbiGoneNuts.jpeg http://www.melontraffickers.com/pics/DC8_noise_and_Lucky_hauling_hardware.jp...
By and large, ninja style raids on remailer operators might be a poor idea. I suggest that Aimee's friends should try to obtain and present a search warrant first.
Obtaining a search warrant will be easy. If you're creative, you can imagine a ninja style raid as a method of presentation. What happens when the remailer operators, if asked to cooperate, attempt to explain that they're unable to provide any information that could help in an investigation? They'll rot in jail, at best. Now is a perfect time for the Government to round up and arrest those people whose imprisonment might otherwise inspire protests or public outrage, whether or not these arrests are related to terrorism. If Dmitry Sklyarov had been arrested today, would there be protests in the street? Would it get an ounce of press coverage? Would significant numbers appear to care, in light of these other events? If you read the Salon article that was posted here earlier, John Perry Barlow's concerns about the future of privacy rights are referred to as "callous" and in "poor taste.[1]" As for Jon Callas's point on the second page, the fact that the Reichstag fire was started by the Nazis, and the WTC attacks were (ostensibly) perpetrated by foreign terrorists, matters little if this century's Nazi analogue seizes the opportunities that the terrorists have handed to it. Anyone expressing anything but war-hoc statements today or dissenting with the government's anti-terrorism measures risks being labeled as an enemy of the state. -MW- [1] http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2001/09/14/privacy/index.html
-- On 14 Sep 2001, at 23:30, Anonymous wrote:
Pictures of three of these bespectacled, nerdly remailer operators:
http://www.melontraffickers.com/pics/DC8_Lucky_BDU_4.jpg http://www.melontraffickers.com/pics/rabbiGoneNuts.jpeg http://www.melontraffickers.com/pics/DC8_noise_and_Lucky_hauling_hardware.jp...
James A. Donald:
By and large, ninja style raids on remailer operators might be a poor idea. I suggest that Aimee's friends should try to obtain and present a search warrant first.
Meyer Wolfsheim:
Obtaining a search warrant will be easy. If you're creative, you can imagine a ninja style raid as a method of presentation.
I suspect if Aimee is sent on such a raid she will suggest an alternate method of presentation.
As for Jon Callas's point on the second page, the fact that the Reichstag fire was started by the Nazis, and the WTC attacks were (ostensibly) perpetrated by foreign terrorists,
"ostensibly"? This sounds rather like Chomsky announcing "We do not pretend to know where the truth lies amidst these sharply conflicting assessments"
Anyone expressing anything but war-hoc statements today or dissenting with the government's anti-terrorism measures risks being labeled as an enemy of the state.
Bush's claim, which I agree with, was that this was not merely an attack on America, but an attack on freedom. Overtly repressive anti terrorism measures mean going off message, conflicting with the administrations big priority of maintaining readiness for large scale war over a period of years. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG GCZhAccbcUMxsdhhPrmxo3zyLp+AozJ4Iz2SeuRl 4DQ0+GwnWBh+Q+fG2KQ/O4Q0kq3qUgFHAynEZCYea
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