I've never felt safer than in such places [where lawabiding citezens are armed], and most would say most such places are desirable, compared to say Washington DC or New York where guns have been outlawed for ages. Except for of course, those in the hands of the state and the criminals.

Why in the world would you say otherwise? --

I think because he's thinking of places like Beirut, Somalia, Bosnia, and so on. You know -- places without any effective central government.

Perhaps my post needed some clarification: I do not believe that a lawfull governmental police force becomes unneccessary once we hand every citizen a gun. Just as the police can not grant an unarmed public's security, an armed populace alone is no guarantee for safe streets. Only the combination of a well prepared public working together with a responsible government can make our lifes truely safe from infringementes by anti-social individuals. I beleive that if people were allowed to used crypto in all communication and carry a gun at all times, crime-be it street crime or white collar- would be reduced to levels far below the present rate. --Marc