Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1993 09:34:53 -0600 To: cypherpunks@toad.com, mbrennan@netcom.com (Michael Brennan) From: matt@oc.com (Matthew Lyle) X-Sender: matt@ra.oc.com Subject: Re: Unacceptable slander by dclunie

It is not appropriate for someone to post a 3600 line "junk" file to a mailing list. UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES! (Think about those sites that are paying hard cash for e-mail transfers!) It is reasonable for such actions to be reported to the administrator of a system.

I don't agree it was appropriate to notify the administrator. This could all have been handled far more elegantly considering the circumstances.

So far as getting off the cypherpunks list, there are a number of other things to try if cypherpunks-request isn't working. Send mail to root@toad.com. Send mail to the administrative contact listed in the WHOIS database for toad.com (John Gilmore, in this case). Talk to your local systems administrator and ask his assistance. What ghabrech did is something I would expect from an immature freshman. (who knows... maybe he is one)

Thank you for this information. I will attempt these courses of action. Perhaps if someone had attempted to offer helpful information from the outset, this problem never would have reached this level. Instead certain individuals chose to post arrogant promises of "retribution" against others, rather than trying to be constructive in this.

Retaliatory strikes aren't right either, of course.

I agree wholeheartedly, and I am glad this discourse now finally seems to be moving onto a level-headed and constructive level. I appeal to all of the cypherpunks to keep it this way! Let's figure what's going wrong here and resolve the situation instead of playing one-upmanship with mail bombs and threats of "dirty tricks". ----- Michael Brennan - mbrennan@netcom.com