On Tue, 20 Apr 93 10:54:00 -0700,
Eric Hughes
You're right, Eric -- we are mad as hell, too. But I'm not about to jump on a flight to the west coast to simply share strategies. The fact that I would even consider it negates the functions which we are working towards, no? I propose that us east coasters organize and meet as well. Pat and I are DC bourne, for those interested, I'd like to propose a DC local meeting. Suggestions? Keep in mind that I'm in NYC during the week, so my only available meeting times aare on the weekends. (By the way, lets get our shit together DC'ers. We need technologists, not lacidaisical idealisms.)
Your DC based Cypherpunk group is hereby established. BTW, if anyone noticed, the EFF is drawing some serious fire by the public press. "Sold out to commercialism", one headline reads.
Cheers.
Paul Ferguson | Uncle Sam wants to read Network Integration Consultant | your e-mail... Alexandria, Virginia USA | Just say "NO" to the Clipper fergp@sytex.com | Chip...
There is plenty of DC area support fr such a group. The only problem
that presents it self is where to hold a meeting where there will be
no hassles.
In addition a thought that many people are overlooking- the wiretap chip
transmissions of encrypted data would make a perfect envelope for the
transfer of more secure information encrypted with powerful encryption
schemes. There would be no easy way to tell the diffence between
pre-encypted transmissions and wiretap chip encrypted conversation.
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Craig Nottingham
Paul Ferguson writes:
You're right, Eric -- we are mad as hell, too. But I'm not about to jump on a flight to the west coast to simply share strategies. The fact that I would even consider it negates the functions which we are working towards, no? I propose that us east coasters organize and meet as well. Pat and I are DC bourne, for those interested, I'd like to propose a DC local meeting. Suggestions? Keep in mind that I'm in NYC during the week, so my only available meeting times aare on the weekends. (By the way, lets get our shit together DC'ers. We need technologists, not lacidaisical idealisms.)
Your DC based Cypherpunk group is hereby established. BTW, if anyone
Hear, hear! We need more such groups! I get occasional messages from folks bemoaning the fact that the Silicon Valley seems to be where it's all happening. Well, it's easier for *you folks* in other areas to pull together a local meeting than it was for Eric Hughes and others of us to set up the first such meeting last September. A list now exists and that helps a lot. (I'll grant you that some of your communities may be more scattered and out-of-touch with each other than our community was...it seems we in the Bay Area mostly all know each other through frequent parties, Hackers Conferences, science fiction groups and parties, high-tech startups, Xanadu, VR, "Mondo 2000," "Wired," and so on. In other less-interconnected areas, you may have to advertise well in advance on this list and perhaps even elsewhere to reach enough like-minded people. But not to sound snotty or anything, that's how your "backwater" regions like Washington can become "happening" places like our area....actually, this is a gross exaggeration, as D.C. has had a very active "2600" group, as has NYC, so neither is a backwater.) There are currently 3 groups holding physical meetings, that I know of: * Silicon Valley/San Francisco Bay Area, meeting since September. * UK Cypherpunks, meeting in London since around December/January. * Boston Cypherpunks, just had its first meeting recently. There are several very active Cypherpunks in the Southern California area, covering San Diego, LA, and as far north as Santa Barbara. Some of them have asked us to have a Cypherpunks meeting down there, which we may still do (personally, I favor some kind of "West Coast Cypherpunks" meeting just before or just after the Crypto Conference this summer, held as always in Santa Barbara. Santa Barbara is about halfway between the two extremes, and is a nice place to meet.). But a better idea is for the SoCal Cypherpunks to form their own group. Likewise, the Washington, D.C. area seems a natural spot, as there are several Cypherpunks that I know of off-hand who're in the area. New York, too. Well, you get the point. No permission is needed! Good luck in these dark days. -Tim May -- .......................................................................... Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@netcom.com | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero 408-688-5409 | knowledge, reputations, information markets, W.A.S.T.E.: Aptos, CA | black markets, collapse of governments. Higher Power: 2^756839 | Public Key: PGP and MailSafe available.
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