On Tue, 20 Apr 93 10:54:00 -0700, Eric Hughes <uunet!soda.berkeley.edu!hughes> wrote - EH> ANNOUNCEMENT EH> ============ EH> Ad Hoc Cypherpunks Meeting on the recent Wiretap Chip proposal. EH> Where: Cygnus Support, Mt. View (directions follow) EH> When: 12:00 noon sharp - 6:00 p.m. EH> I'm mad as hell. I know that a lot of other folks are too. You're right, Eric -- we are mad as hell, too. But I'm not about to jump on a flight to the west coast to simply share strategies. The fact that I would even consider it negates the functions which we are working towards, no? I propose that us east coasters organize and meet as well. Pat and I are DC bourne, for those interested, I'd like to propose a DC local meeting. Suggestions? Keep in mind that I'm in NYC during the week, so my only available meeting times aare on the weekends. (By the way, lets get our shit together DC'ers. We need technologists, not lacidaisical idealisms.) Your DC based Cypherpunk group is hereby established. BTW, if anyone noticed, the EFF is drawing some serious fire by the public press. "Sold out to commercialism", one headline reads. Cheers. Paul Ferguson | Uncle Sam wants to read Network Integration Consultant | your e-mail... Alexandria, Virginia USA | Just say "NO" to the Clipper fergp@sytex.com | Chip...
You're right, Eric -- we are mad as hell, too. But I'm not about to jump on a flight to the west coast to simply share strategies. The fact that I would even consider it negates the functions which we are working towards, no? I propose that us east coasters organize and meet as well. Pat and I are DC bourne, for those interested, I'd like to propose a DC local meeting. Suggestions? Keep in mind that I'm in NYC during the week, so my only available meeting times aare on the weekends. (By the way, lets get our shit together DC'ers. We need technologists, not lacidaisical idealisms.)
Your DC based Cypherpunk group is hereby established. BTW, if anyone noticed, the EFF is drawing some serious fire by the public press. "Sold out to commercialism", one headline reads.
Cheers.
Paul Ferguson | Uncle Sam wants to read Network Integration Consultant | your e-mail... Alexandria, Virginia USA | Just say "NO" to the Clipper fergp@sytex.com | Chip...
There is plenty of DC area support fr such a group. The only problem that presents it self is where to hold a meeting where there will be no hassles. In addition a thought that many people are overlooking- the wiretap chip transmissions of encrypted data would make a perfect envelope for the transfer of more secure information encrypted with powerful encryption schemes. There would be no easy way to tell the diffence between pre-encypted transmissions and wiretap chip encrypted conversation. ~~~~~ Craig Nottingham <cnotting@cosmos.gmu.edu> -Reality is for people who lack imagination NeXTmail<cnotting@gravity.gmu.edu> -I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. <=> Hunter S Thompson -A good cap of acid costs five dollars and for that you can hear the Universal Symphony with God singing solo and the Holy Ghost on drums. <=> H.S Thompson ~~~~~
Paul Ferguson writes:
You're right, Eric -- we are mad as hell, too. But I'm not about to jump on a flight to the west coast to simply share strategies. The fact that I would even consider it negates the functions which we are working towards, no? I propose that us east coasters organize and meet as well. Pat and I are DC bourne, for those interested, I'd like to propose a DC local meeting. Suggestions? Keep in mind that I'm in NYC during the week, so my only available meeting times aare on the weekends. (By the way, lets get our shit together DC'ers. We need technologists, not lacidaisical idealisms.)
Your DC based Cypherpunk group is hereby established. BTW, if anyone
Hear, hear! We need more such groups! I get occasional messages from folks bemoaning the fact that the Silicon Valley seems to be where it's all happening. Well, it's easier for *you folks* in other areas to pull together a local meeting than it was for Eric Hughes and others of us to set up the first such meeting last September. A list now exists and that helps a lot. (I'll grant you that some of your communities may be more scattered and out-of-touch with each other than our community was...it seems we in the Bay Area mostly all know each other through frequent parties, Hackers Conferences, science fiction groups and parties, high-tech startups, Xanadu, VR, "Mondo 2000," "Wired," and so on. In other less-interconnected areas, you may have to advertise well in advance on this list and perhaps even elsewhere to reach enough like-minded people. But not to sound snotty or anything, that's how your "backwater" regions like Washington can become "happening" places like our area....actually, this is a gross exaggeration, as D.C. has had a very active "2600" group, as has NYC, so neither is a backwater.) There are currently 3 groups holding physical meetings, that I know of: * Silicon Valley/San Francisco Bay Area, meeting since September. * UK Cypherpunks, meeting in London since around December/January. * Boston Cypherpunks, just had its first meeting recently. There are several very active Cypherpunks in the Southern California area, covering San Diego, LA, and as far north as Santa Barbara. Some of them have asked us to have a Cypherpunks meeting down there, which we may still do (personally, I favor some kind of "West Coast Cypherpunks" meeting just before or just after the Crypto Conference this summer, held as always in Santa Barbara. Santa Barbara is about halfway between the two extremes, and is a nice place to meet.). But a better idea is for the SoCal Cypherpunks to form their own group. Likewise, the Washington, D.C. area seems a natural spot, as there are several Cypherpunks that I know of off-hand who're in the area. New York, too. Well, you get the point. No permission is needed! Good luck in these dark days. -Tim May -- .......................................................................... Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@netcom.com | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero 408-688-5409 | knowledge, reputations, information markets, W.A.S.T.E.: Aptos, CA | black markets, collapse of governments. Higher Power: 2^756839 | Public Key: PGP and MailSafe available.
-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: 2.2 hIwCfcTW1h74rscBBACgoXqxxsGqZeW16tmf7LppwJkxwGTHrfYItif/Yj50GdiH gevW5vahjjhLzPMoQOk3NeoP2P1KN1wgCoYk7hU0EVS1jh6rDHIx4+9X9PFE9H7V U9AoRLNXA1ymg0eZnfZSfQcX1Xx1cDKY7tDmW44AQKXlO5Dm/OV9TDFFzu4U56YA AARl7WCaTKUz7FlM9zuQ3TO9UbgtXfsonEmC8AYgnMSEHasAWBTpJQ5g8/5T2trC DQgWqrAzH8cSb5nIsKMq0Aiys64d/cu55BacruwuvVJ1jxubuv3Yjbjjf9K03tXm cIzkBWkYx5R+Wslm4DhjpPVlr8dQs3f1nXTGN8s99S6D7WPhrgXimwSVbjtVv4N2 aauMY7LkfhzQiBtOW7HQXhTC5NXpuFbydE2vEZQlfDeHgSM+CT4s3HTV0g0Srokk Nl+XLE/XvRsjdCLmASQwzCuMzwhP6oyCd6xFl7/6oSzVka8nRlTEsRRmbHlzhXda uTYAAa8J44XMiomB6mM+N6zp7NIU2HzmidMrgzCSIkW5LRL/N7I4HC6N002jdA+L 0/ltkWV8MMAXmZAqeiIwfHTTLsT7LIu+WuxxM0ORjQxcdD3hRG3H9ou7udT22fsn gmykY62J++jREQOltqzC9NM7/b5DBhvCu8WNOfP6Dz39cx06ItxEMS1bRegsQD1N BO6z7kZxPXVXGneG+gAh8PjT4Z+6EjExUa4QS8SjTvNvuEJGQZgailz4yQyciI4G NJjLvqHO/N6qeImb1xf2dSxylyAGAiFbKdevDWezK/HKxyV/xyvcbhnwUdtdXP/Y etbxyM4hHz5J//pkTTS9tSW/HdD1u/OeT2FiSOcvn1l3O9nBe0llw7zUMWM1MRqy 1BoaT0lM4EWevbIhdRBFp6R6VyYmqfcQbxMykSpgq3VfxkmMSoM3fS1Sh5y70oUU zZzCRvCgA1N2BgtJOGZJYWZltZILUqI6SoGgi7ZTbZKOajQmwhPnA068wal7hcHd OFTX2IkpIMv9iUp3ZqfRZpw3XC0RyiYHAe86RQXYx1ghEr4r6uIrZPxk8EomPPfN 7Ydy6lvQVt0U8Z2PLI2hrphUjsY8MsaISZh553PQGvQKueVRZ155ALw4OyHelFot Rm5xr8oXeH2J8wrpK2F7k/nb5Y4Zv+ZbZkF0usRUwFmv+A3nKpNQthTRcdSXp56U sUXg+ajS+IpBbNMzeCyk9igypmmnVS9HOWkDa34++aR8QaTEohj1vydKK1jzzxrz 50hxjwkacOojGBllV4UwXzIbVUInbia4YR9Fiwl/5v+vyYzEgy8hTIJcofGp8Yra 5NYEQ+tpYdsTM7eGBP+RSWIZ6geTcCcyUO66aDiirqm++SIbNATKihbHqEUAjlxV 5fTVIQfJH5SU8Tx8Wslz5k3EXgnwU7vkEROU9TA+v3pkbAt32vvS7Snym3XsO2py il21jWWTG5DGG64RO5X0nnccMSoEayiaaWAq9R66988B9q3zj0+c0DNAlqV+D6b4 MOOaDOA/ev2mRz9rJKekpaJo95Vv+x9vFHZPvwFGpAT/5Ri5MVQwgAR8Hth+L+xt R0m6U82/mRZrIBFVruAUq/tIiWKPnIcHI0vC8S92SHB9icN3Y8GAV4k1Q5rcfkQ6 /YOkm4TZiCvYN4C4/9gyQwg6RZpX4erk =W8Y+ -----END PGP MESSAGE-----
participants (4)
-
$HOME/.sig -
Craig Nottingham -
fergp＠sytex.com -
tcmay＠netcom.com